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Ms. Toad

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91. Every time an organ is transplanted, there are others who could have gotten it who may die.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 10:50 AM
Feb 2025

So it isn't a choice about saving the girl. It is a choice about which little girl to save.

The transplant center has to choose. Rather than base that choice on who has the most money, who is smarter, gender, race, etc. Transplant centers base it on medical criteria, including whether the potential recipient is willing to protect the heart from diseases which specifically attack the heart, as COVID does.

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It's apparent they don't care if the kid lives or dies. She'll definitely die without a heart transplant, so you'd Vinca Feb 2025 #1
Kool ade Wifes husband Feb 2025 #4
They are willing to kill their child to make a political point. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #32
You would certainly think so. I know I would... ananda Feb 2025 #44
Even the lives of their children. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #49
From some of their comments, it seems they think karynnj Feb 2025 #75
Also, there's a hella lot of anti-immune system drugs the kid will have to take... haele Feb 2025 #88
Exactly Sanity Claws Feb 2025 #101
Virginia had two children die from flu also Maggiemayhem Feb 2025 #109
They kill their child either way. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #90
At this point, there is likely no compatible heart, karynnj Feb 2025 #98
If Trump orders the hospitals to do surgery on high risk patients, Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #102
then you arrest trump for practicing medicine without a license moonshinegnomie Feb 2025 #113
Maybe Rebl2 Feb 2025 #111
Yeah, pretty shallow thinking. GoodRaisin Feb 2025 #55
More than like because they failed to follow rules set up. If they can not follow the simple rules LiberalArkie Feb 2025 #62
Some people... GiqueCee Feb 2025 #64
The intentions of this administration are harsh enough, the unintended concequences they're sowing will be brutal ... marble falls Feb 2025 #2
If they don't trust them about the Vaccines why would they trust them to do a heart transplant ? JI7 Feb 2025 #3
Truly UpInArms Feb 2025 #18
Wow Emile Feb 2025 #5
Post removed Post removed Feb 2025 #6
So you dont come in sicker than you already are, or infect medical staff or other patients. hatrack Feb 2025 #7
Not a good enough reason Renew Deal Feb 2025 #22
How about being chemically immunosuppressed long after the operation, so that COVID likely means death? hatrack Feb 2025 #26
No Renew Deal Feb 2025 #31
It is not fair to other patients waiting for a heart. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #42
Hard to say if it's fair or not. Renew Deal Feb 2025 #46
Hatrack you are 100% correct. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #40
This right here spinbaby Feb 2025 #47
My daughter is a renal dietitian 26+ years Marthe48 Feb 2025 #94
Renew Deal, do you have a medical degree? Have you looked at the research? Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #33
I agree with you Renew Deal Feb 2025 #39
Every time an organ is transplanted, there are others who could have gotten it who may die. Ms. Toad Feb 2025 #91
+ 1 n/t TubbersUK Feb 2025 #103
I disagree, when the supply of organs is limited HariSeldon Feb 2025 #60
On the surface this sounds good but poke it with a stick.... AkFemDem Feb 2025 #85
What part of they will be immune suppressed for life escapes you? travelingthrulife Feb 2025 #117
What's wrong with you? AkFemDem Feb 2025 #122
Here is my personal experience with my mom's need for a kidney donation. MLAA Feb 2025 #84
What about the fact that viable hearts are a scarce resource karynnj Feb 2025 #93
actually the fact that the child is non compliant with medical advice is a terrific reason to deny the transplant dsc Feb 2025 #119
Post removed Post removed Feb 2025 #67
That has nothing to do with the requirement. Ms. Toad Feb 2025 #81
Covid is still out there, still killing people Blues Heron Feb 2025 #11
Post removed Post removed Feb 2025 #23
"So?" Are you kidding me Renew Deal? hlthe2b Feb 2025 #37
There's lots of stuff killing people. You can't reduce all risk. Renew Deal Feb 2025 #43
They are respecting the fact that the heart could be wasted and others are waiting for it who WOULD hlthe2b Feb 2025 #50
Well this year is a brutal flu year Johonny Feb 2025 #14
Because when you have a transplant Bettie Feb 2025 #15
Vaccines are basic medicine Renew Deal Feb 2025 #24
Covid didn't exist until a few years ago Bettie Feb 2025 #45
Did this person actually refuse? Renew Deal Feb 2025 #48
Her parents refused Bettie Feb 2025 #51
You forget that hearts are not commonly available. ExciteBike66 Feb 2025 #78
if you get a transplant you get major immunosuppressant drugs moonshinegnomie Feb 2025 #17
The guideline in this case drives certain people toward the same outcome. Renew Deal Feb 2025 #27
Truly pathetic - WTI hatrack Feb 2025 #29
And by the way; they are 12, so it's actually the parents Renew Deal Feb 2025 #30
How about maxrandb Feb 2025 #53
You said it better than I did. hunter Feb 2025 #73
bullshit!!!!!!!! eShirl Feb 2025 #66
Except, it does. And has for decades. Not everyone gets on the list, and not everyone ends up with an organ. mucholderthandirt Feb 2025 #106
Renew Deal, I address this below, but realize the recipient will have zero immunity to nearly anything hlthe2b Feb 2025 #21
Does this patient actually have a choice? Renew Deal Feb 2025 #28
No. The usual situation--as I addressed below when it is life and death is that courts get involved hlthe2b Feb 2025 #34
Absolutely tintinvotes Feb 2025 #38
Are you questioning science because it sounds like you are? nt yaesu Feb 2025 #52
No Renew Deal Feb 2025 #57
Manmade requirements based on science VMA131Marine Feb 2025 #77
Scientific research has indicated that heart transplant patients have tavernier Feb 2025 #86
There are not enough hearts for everyone who needs one. hunter Feb 2025 #56
I am curious. mgardener Feb 2025 #63
Do you have kids? Renew Deal Feb 2025 #83
Gift tintinvotes Feb 2025 #97
I am curious. mgardener Feb 2025 #65
There is a very limited supply of organs. Girard442 Feb 2025 #68
Transplants are different pinkstarburst Feb 2025 #69
Because anti-rejection drugs weaken the immune system VMA131Marine Feb 2025 #72
Because when you get a transplant, you take immunosuppressant drugs Ms. Toad Feb 2025 #74
Remember how many people died of Covid before the vaccine? Most of them were Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #82
A human heart is no small matter Americanme Feb 2025 #8
Transplant centers often require a sobriety period, usually 6 months, before a patient can receive a liver transplant. sop Feb 2025 #35
What yiz don't get..... there are little geo-locaters in the vaccine. 3Hotdogs Feb 2025 #9
I'm a transplant nurse ismnotwasm Feb 2025 #10
She sure as shit does . . . . hatrack Feb 2025 #19
Better parents. sop Feb 2025 #36
Wasting a heart or any organ on someone refusing vaccines knowing they will have zilch immunity hlthe2b Feb 2025 #12
Morons...must run in the family spanone Feb 2025 #13
This story makes me ill. Kennedy and his ilk have contributed to the dumbing down Passages Feb 2025 #16
Yet that guy (RFK Jr) ... mwooldri Feb 2025 #92
I know, and we don't know the circumstances of each child at the time. Passages Feb 2025 #99
basically the parents trust science when its convienient moonshinegnomie Feb 2025 #20
When my friend got a kidney transplant in 2019 Marthe48 Feb 2025 #25
What a compelling testimonial, Marthe. Thank you for sharing your experience. Diamond_Dog Feb 2025 #70
I foresee another worthless Executive Order displacedvermoter Feb 2025 #41
I feel bad for the kid... they didn;t choose this. Happy Hoosier Feb 2025 #54
I agree, it is felony abuse and neglect, resulting in death of child. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #58
Why are we being given this information? It feels manipulative. 33taw Feb 2025 #59
Maybe JD feels ignored Bettie Feb 2025 #79
Or, he is trying gain sympathy to force a system change. 33taw Feb 2025 #95
What kind of system change? Bettie Feb 2025 #107
Exactly 33taw Feb 2025 #118
And the ass clown MAGATs talk about "post-birth abortions". Texin Feb 2025 #61
Gawd damn 3auld6phart Feb 2025 #71
Good, no sense in throwing away a heart. Autumn Feb 2025 #76
A translpant patient is immunocompromized for life tinrobot Feb 2025 #80
She'll probably get on a list in Texas. LeftInTX Feb 2025 #87
Well... bye. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #89
If the girl dies, the parents should be charged with murder. Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #96
Too many Americans live in a magical, "rules are made to be broken" world dlk Feb 2025 #100
The cult kills a kid... JT45242 Feb 2025 #104
Non vaccinated child Dave Id Feb 2025 #105
Great parents. bif Feb 2025 #108
I would do anything to save my children bronxiteforever Feb 2025 #110
FAFO Raftergirl Feb 2025 #112
Ethical question GusBob Feb 2025 #114
Good. Why should a heart be wasted when she gets covid in her immunosuppressed state? travelingthrulife Feb 2025 #115
I have quite a few Trumpers VGNonly Feb 2025 #116
Post removed Post removed Feb 2025 #120
I had a relative that needed a kidney, refused the vax. Swede Feb 2025 #121
After the transplant what would prevent the parents from refusing the suppressants and leaving it to God? Marcuse Feb 2025 #123
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