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Qutzupalotl

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9. Russell Voght came out and said it.

Mon Feb 17, 2025, 02:49 PM

Feb 17

He thinks we are in a post-Constitutional era. That should have been enough to sink his nomination to OMB director, but here we are.

We live in a sound byte era, and an educational message is unlikely to resonate. Perhaps some remember what the Constitution is supposed to mean, and those people might hear it. But those who slept through Civics are looking for a quick fix that the system can't support, and so are suspicious of the system, including the Constitution.

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It's good to see protests, but I wonder if the pro-democracy, anti-billionaire framing is right for this moment [View all] EarlG Feb 17 OP

Good point n/t Lulu KC Feb 17 #1

Just oligarchs works for me, there is no set dollar amount Uncle Joe Feb 17 #2

People are against Musk because of what he is doing, not because he is rich. dalton99a Feb 17 #3

And that number is growing exponentially PortTack Feb 17 #20

+1. He's hurting tens of thousands of federal workers and their families basically for shits and giggles dalton99a Feb 17 #28

The total lack of understanding of how govt works is also stunning. yellow dahlia Feb 17 #40

+1. He knows to use government for free money and regulatory protection against competition to great effect. dalton99a Feb 17 #43

Exactly. yellow dahlia Feb 17 #44

Well put DFW Feb 17 #4

My sign says 'Musk is a Bond Villain' alittlelark Feb 17 #5

The Horatio Alger myth orangecrush Feb 17 #6

personally, i'd like to see a focus on the moral bankruptcy of the ruling elite. start w epstein's list. mopinko Feb 17 #7

as a Party, we'll be wandering in the wilderness until we reclaim the Populist label from the GOP. WarGamer Feb 17 #8

Russell Voght came out and said it. Qutzupalotl Feb 17 #9

Doing what the billionaires wanted is how we are in this mess. Blue Full Moon Feb 17 #10

Yes. The idea that Americans consider the wealthy members of the hated "Them" in the populist Us vs Them betsuni Feb 17 #11

I think people are getting angrier at the billionaires by the day. Irish_Dem Feb 17 #12

+1 leftstreet Feb 17 #13

as well they should. The disparity is obscene. They just keep cleaning the trough and hoard it. Few exceptions. Evolve Dammit Feb 17 #24

I agree. The GOP tax scheme budget bronxiteforever Feb 17 #25

I have always thought one of the obstacles has been that some people think yellow dahlia Feb 17 #39

Yes, probably multiple factors Irish_Dem Feb 17 #41

I'm more inclined to let those folks define what they're protesting for bigtree Feb 17 #14

There are many, many entities organizing different groups around different messages right now. Pushing for WhiskeyGrinder Feb 17 #15

We should definitely be pushing the anti-constitutional behavior of Elon Musk and DOGE. GoodRaisin Feb 17 #16

like schoolhouse rock said... eShirl Feb 17 #17

I would also like the continual referring to him as a FELON to end. Abolishinist Feb 17 #18

President Musk & the First Felon. CrispyQ Feb 17 #32

Democratic billionaires and other pro democracy billionaires Meowmee Feb 17 #19

The ruling class has no interest in opposing the ruling class. Voltaire2 Feb 17 #30

Yes, they do Meowmee Feb 17 #45

Good idea! Wild blueberry Feb 17 #21

Agreed. highplainsdem Feb 17 #22

IMHO, we must do both. Passages Feb 17 #23

Diverse signage demanding equity for all would be inclusive of everyone's concerns. Harker Feb 17 #26

Pro-Constitution, Anti-Monarchy Pinback Feb 17 #27

Left populism is the answer to right populism. nt. Voltaire2 Feb 17 #29

When another Luigi can't take any more, aocommunalpunch Feb 17 #31

It's a very valid OP. bucolic_frolic Feb 17 #33

good points one and all et tu Feb 17 #34

"the Constitution IS America, and without it, there is no America" says it NoSheep Feb 17 #35

"Why won't you stand up and defend the Constitution?" Yes, THIS is the framing. Beartracks Feb 17 #36

Let's start countering the myth of bootstrap billionaires. And tie them to slavery. Clouds Passing Feb 17 #37

Thank you! yellow dahlia Feb 17 #38

Very good post misanthrope Feb 17 #42

Does that mean that eating the fuckers is out of the question? Getting caught up Autumn Feb 18 #46

Or... kentuck Feb 18 #47