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Uncle Joe

(64,010 posts)
34. My belief is
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 11:47 AM
Feb 2025

as they say about "wounded animals being most dangerous" that it will de-evolve into increasing authoritarianism, and at some point the Musk/*rump administration will call for martial law, they're just looking for an excuse to do it. That's why they're so cavalier about breaking so many things, they want society to implode from the chaos.

Back in the day of Ferdinand Marcos, that's how they did it in the Philippines and elsewhere around the world.

260. Memorandum From the President’s Assistant for National Security Affairs (Kissinger) to President Nixon1
Washington, September 23, 1972.

President Marcos imposed martial law throughout the Philippines at midnight September 22. He proclaimed it officially at mid-day September 23, according to press reports, saying that it did not involve military rule and that civilian government would continue. We do not yet have the text of the proclamation, and thus do not at this point know its specifics, particularly as to whether Marcos suspended the Congress.

The situation at present is as follows:

—Numerous arrests of Marcos’ critics have reportedly been made, according to Embassy Manila, including opposition Liberal Party Secretary General Aquino (whom Marcos recently accused of conspiring with the Communists), several other opposition politicians, and Manila Times editor Roces and several other journalists and commentators.
—All television stations and most radio stations have been closed, and no major newspapers appeared the morning of September 23. Radio stations are broadcasting no news.

(snip)

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76ve12/d322

At 7:15 p.m. on September 23, 1972, President Ferdinand Marcos announced on television that he had placed the Philippines under martial law,[1][2] stating he had done so in response to the "communist threat" posed by the newly founded Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP), and the sectarian "rebellion" of the Muslim Independence Movement (MIM). Opposition figures of the time (such as Lorenzo Tañada, Jose W. Diokno, and Jovito Salonga) accused Marcos of exaggerating these threats and using them as an excuse to consolidate power and extend his tenure beyond the two presidential terms allowed by the 1935 constitution.[3] Marcos signed Proclamation No. 1081 on September 21, 1972, marking the beginning of a fourteen-year period of one-man rule, which effectively lasted until Marcos was exiled from the country on February 25, 1986.[4][5] Proclamation No. 1081 was formally lifted on January 17, 1981, although Marcos retained essentially all of his powers as dictator until he was ousted in February 1986.[6][7]

This nine-year period in Philippine history is remembered for the Marcos administration's record of human rights abuses,[8][9] particularly targeting political opponents, student activists, journalists, religious workers, farmers, and others who fought against the Marcos dictatorship.[10] Based on the documentation of Amnesty International, Task Force Detainees of the Philippines, and similar human rights monitoring entities,[11] historians believe that the Marcos dictatorship was marked by 3,257 known extrajudicial killings, 35,000 documented tortures, 737 "disappeared", and 70,000 incarcerations.[11][12]: 4 [13]: 16  After Marcos was ousted, government investigators discovered that the declaration of martial law had also allowed the Marcoses to hide secret stashes of unexplained wealth that various courts[6] later determined to be "of criminal origin".[14]

While Marcos's presidency began in late 1965,[15] this article is limited to the period in which he exercised dictatorial powers under martial law,[1] and the period where he continued to wield those powers despite lifting the proclamation in 1981.[16][17]

(snip)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law_under_Ferdinand_Marcos#:~:text=At%207%3A15%20p.m.%20on,sectarian%20%22rebellion%22%20of%20the%20Muslim

They're already attacking the free press, trashing the courts and threatening political opponents with prison.

One of the first steps would be to eliminate military leadership whom actually honors their oath to the U.S. Constitution.

Trump fires chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and two other military officers

https://apnews.com/article/trump-brown-joint-chiefs-of-staff-firing-fa428cc1508a583b3bf5e7a5a58f6acf

Thanks for the thread Big Blue Marble

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eppur, it wouldn't even have to be for blackmail... slightlv Feb 2025 #62
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Longer than I am going to be here. n/t S/V Loner Feb 2025 #60
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