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usedtobedemgurl

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170. But the reason it would never work is their leader is
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 03:05 PM
Mar 2025

A bully. Not because we do not know how to negotiate. What do you do when you live under an abusive dictator? I do not want to live with more trauma the rest of my life. So either we (dems, not all of us, his fuckwads are loyal to him) take up arms against the US, or someone does away with our country. Until all of them are put in their place and they learn a lesson, nothing can be accomplished on our side.

We already know there was at least one plan to assasinate him. He told us that, when he said if Iran ever does it, they will be demolished. I said the first go round that he is such a threat to the world, I am amazed some country did not take him out. I am not advocating or encouraging anyone here to do that. I just do not see how we do anything with him in charge of the Looney Bin.

This is not my country, so I find no allegiance to it. My country was the great one that existed before all of this. As I stated in a post a long time ago, my country abandoned me. I have health problems. They do not care enough (actually, they are greedy and take money from lobbyists) to supply universal healthcare. We can go fuck ourselves. Well, if that is how they feel, why should I feel any allegiance to this country? If other countries take care of citizen’s healthcare, why can we not figure it out? Either we are too greedy or too many of our politicians are bought and paid for.

In my estimate, they may do elections in the future but the vote is predetermined before the first one is cast. That is how Putin does it. Trump has said there will be no need for any more elections. Trump just took over the election processs. No, this is not my country. This is a subsidiary of Russia. I would no more fight to keep it than I would Russia.

If my husband was not tied to insurance in this country, I would not be here. I do not wish to live in or fight for a country which I fear. I fear enough that I am afraid my Trumper relative will turn me in for being a liberal. I fear it enough, if our borders close, I will seek a way to get out by claiming my second country, the country I grew up in is my real citizenship and I will try to get kicked out of this one. Something is really fucked up when you have to make contingency plans, in case you cannot get out of the country and you are afraid of being turned in for your political beliefs. Fight for what? There is nothing left but hate, and that is nothing worth fighting for.

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Lighten Up Francis Shellback Squid Mar 2025 #1
Huh, Your Disregard Is Duly Noted MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #3
You've been here since 2022 and you're telling us what we can and cannot post? Wow. Dave says Mar 2025 #44
Your Disdain And Disregard Is Sadly Noted. MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #60
Your disdain and disregard are ignored VMA131Marine Mar 2025 #185
I Have Neither Disdain Nor Disregard For You MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #190
Good! Excellent! VMA131Marine Mar 2025 #192
Right. It's just a dream secnario of being away and out of the criminal felon's reach. brush Mar 2025 #81
I've been here more than 20 years and I wouldn't tell the Admin's what to do. I might suggest something, but not call artemisia1 Mar 2025 #83
Secession would be dangerous ... VMA131Marine Mar 2025 #188
Stripes! .. I got it right off...........nt DoBW Mar 2025 #72
If THAT is what is most disturbing to you right now--I think you need to rethink your priorities and.. hlthe2b Mar 2025 #2
Divisiveness Within Our Party Is Antithetical To Our Success MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #4
I don't advocate surrendering to the NAZIS and MAGATS in the name of UNITY. hlthe2b Mar 2025 #5
Perhaps you've heard the expression that you catch more flies with honey EdmondDantes_ Mar 2025 #17
So we give up on turning red states blue (because Dems aren't viewed positive)? That is what I hear from you. hlthe2b Mar 2025 #20
Those of us in blue states need to value and thank Democrats like you karynnj Mar 2025 #152
Thank-you. That is the only way we can go forward when we have a real and present danger to our Democracy. In JohnSJ Mar 2025 #138
We know what's going on. LeftInTX Mar 2025 #6
Yes... hlthe2b Mar 2025 #8
EXACTLY!! bluestarone Mar 2025 #12
I live in a purple state and I would move in a heartbeat. yardwork Mar 2025 #7
The Majority Of Those That Would LIke To Move Are Unable... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #15
We're ALL being thrown away. yardwork Mar 2025 #25
For me it isn't a pipe dream JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #86
Quitters Never Win -- Only Cowards Abandon Their Fellow Countrymen MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #101
Mean never works, it just alienates folks further. Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #105
Indeed --- Truth Is Truth - Cowardice Is Cowardice - Division Is Division MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #106
Aren't Red States JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #182
Am i a coward? JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #178
Be very very careful about who you are calling a coward .. VMA131Marine Mar 2025 #191
Not when a substantial number of people in this country do not embrace reason alarimer Mar 2025 #206
I Agree With You Wholeheartedly -- Our Nation Has Recovered From Greater Trauma In The Past MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #214
Respectfully disagree angrychair Mar 2025 #210
Wow - Blaming And Punishing Fellow Democrats That Fight By Your Side In States With Vote Suppression MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #213
There was no voter suppression angrychair Mar 2025 #219
Your Disdain And Disregard Of Our Fellow Democrats Within Those States And Others Is Duly Noted MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #220
What do we do? As long as Fox rules the airwaves, they control the narrrative. Initech Mar 2025 #9
John Mayer Traildogbob Mar 2025 #42
The main reason it won't work The Madcap Mar 2025 #10
Wash. Oregon and Cali joining Canada... lame54 Mar 2025 #13
The Electoral College makes them red and blue states. yardwork Mar 2025 #33
Even in Oklahoma the most populous county is dark purple. BannonsLiver Mar 2025 #41
Reforms I would like to see... The Madcap Mar 2025 #45
All excellent ideas. yardwork Mar 2025 #49
14. JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #87
Looks like it was close in 2024 too Polybius Mar 2025 #167
The main reason it would not work is trump has itched to use nuclear weapons. usedtobedemgurl Mar 2025 #122
West Virginia too Polybius Mar 2025 #166
All the cards are on the table now. Haggard Celine Mar 2025 #11
Thank You For Your Considered Reply MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #142
You have links to all these divisive posts? I haven't seen any lately. Emile Mar 2025 #14
Today Was The First Day In A While That I Encountered One Emile MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #18
Just curious. What DU rule did the post break? sinkingfeeling Mar 2025 #21
Divisiveness MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #22
As we experience a devastating barrage of DIVISIVENESS from TRUMP MAGA that threatens our hlthe2b Mar 2025 #26
It's providing me with some lighthearted levity, actually. yardwork Mar 2025 #35
hah... yeah there is that... hlthe2b Mar 2025 #36
There's no rule about dividing the USA muriel_volestrangler Mar 2025 #102
Your Disregard Of Fellow Democrats Is Duly Noted MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #104
Oooh, we're up to 9 "duly noted"s now! That'll teach us! muriel_volestrangler Mar 2025 #131
Point of order JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #184
It's considered a call out. BannonsLiver Mar 2025 #40
So there was one. And it was the first one in a long time. Iggo Mar 2025 #77
Callous Disregard Duly Noted MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author mchill Mar 2025 #92
Think of it this way mchill Mar 2025 #93
"Quack." Iggo Mar 2025 #164
Perhaps Take A Look Within This Thread... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #103
Who started this thread? Emile Mar 2025 #117
I Started The Thread Emile -- I Was Uncertain Whether To Discuss This In The General Forum Or The Admin Forum MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #119
we are at war. lapfog_1 Mar 2025 #16
I am sick of red states. stillcool Mar 2025 #19
I'd end up way behind enemy lines Diraven Mar 2025 #23
Dig Your Avatar! Homer Rules!! MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #24
You have a problem with what other people want that's on you. People are entitled to Autumn Mar 2025 #27
Wow, You're Hatred Of Me And Mine Is Duly Noted... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #58
Zero hatred of you or your family was expressed. Voltaire2 Mar 2025 #75
Perhaps Dont Deflect... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #95
What is "You Are Hatred Of Me And Mine" Full Serrano Mar 2025 #120
I'll Edit It.. It Was A Typo... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #123
Your Disregard For Fellow Democrats In So Called Red States Is Duly Noted MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #100
I have a very nice life. Thank you very much. Autumn Mar 2025 #147
I'll be sure and post my contempt for red states and their desperate attempts to control blue states Autumn Mar 2025 #148
I live behind the Hoosier Iron Curtain and I thank you. Emile Mar 2025 #149
I don't see any. dchill Mar 2025 #28
Imagine this: As a Californian mchill Mar 2025 #29
Good reason for a revolution, no? This is precisely the type of dynamic that makes major political change inevitable. nt Blasphemer Mar 2025 #52
I see that same argument given by wealthy suburbs not wanting to send their tax money to the inner cities MichMan Mar 2025 #53
I think at least trying would be worth it Shambala Mar 2025 #56
Imagine a country made up of just the states that voted for Harris in 2024. yardwork Mar 2025 #66
Oh please no! I live in the State of Jefferson mchill Mar 2025 #91
My bad Shambala Mar 2025 #199
Wow, Your Disregard Is Duly Noted MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #67
Your little red notebook must be getting full VMA131Marine Mar 2025 #197
I'm not. Voltaire2 Mar 2025 #30
Trump's director of OMB has put forth the idea that we are in a post-Constitutional era... AntiFascist Mar 2025 #31
Seriously.... It might need to happen. PuraVidaDreamin Mar 2025 #32
... demmiblue Mar 2025 #34
who would benefit from such an outcome? mahina Mar 2025 #37
Blue states would benefit. Our tax dollars would not have to subsidze their self chosen Autumn Mar 2025 #38
Not as well as we'd think we will. haele Mar 2025 #46
True, but what if they had less power? yardwork Mar 2025 #51
Agree MorbidButterflyTat Mar 2025 #196
Haven't seen that lately but rec'ng because of the meanness. BannonsLiver Mar 2025 #39
Misery loves company? Blaukraut Mar 2025 #43
This is a good point JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #88
Wow - Your Disregard Is Duly Noted MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #96
Going to write that down in your little red book are you? VMA131Marine Mar 2025 #194
I think it's a response to MAGA doing the same. Oneironaut Mar 2025 #47
Hear, Hear!!! MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #55
Nothing is settled LS0999 Mar 2025 #144
this is inaccurate Nimble_Idea Mar 2025 #145
Which part? Oneironaut Mar 2025 #157
If I Could Vote Against An OP... ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #48
To Whom Are You Referring? MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #54
+1 Dave Bowman Mar 2025 #208
Why is that divisive? There are TWO Americas. We are NOT a united republic. Blasphemer Mar 2025 #50
I'd love to secede. Red states hate us so why in the world would they even care? Except for all the money we Raftergirl Mar 2025 #57
Wow. Your Hatred And Blatant Disregard For Other's Humanity Is Duly Noted MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #73
Nobody is seriously calling for that. It wouldn't even be possible. Ocelot II Mar 2025 #59
I Would Like For That To Be True MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #65
Then if you want to be a DU'er, you need to develop a thicker skin ms liberty Mar 2025 #74
Your Disregard Is Duly Noted MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #121
I used to think it was a crazy idea, but now I don't. yardwork Mar 2025 #68
Are you serious? Cirsium Mar 2025 #61
It's A Call For The Admins. MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #62
OK Cirsium Mar 2025 #79
Secession enid602 Mar 2025 #63
There may be a ballot initiative, but only to prepare a report on the viability... AntiFascist Mar 2025 #71
For California to secede from the union, it would take a civil war. Iggo Mar 2025 #78
So you think it should be business as usual? Bev54 Mar 2025 #64
This is the first post ever saw saying such a doc03 Mar 2025 #69
It's been going on since the election. LeftInTX Mar 2025 #80
I just ignore those posts, it isn't going to happen anyway. nt doc03 Mar 2025 #82
Yep... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #114
Someone once said edhopper Mar 2025 #70
Are You Calling For The Dissolution Of Our Republic? MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #94
Not yet edhopper Mar 2025 #150
The Battle Is On... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #151
I personally can't move but we need to do something drastic. kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2025 #76
THANK YOU Skittles Mar 2025 #85
THANK YOU Skittles!!! MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #99
what would Lincoln think Skittles Mar 2025 #183
Possibly this JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #187
well, he WAS a republican Skittles Mar 2025 #198
So, once the rule of law is ignored, elections are cancelled, the military is used against GoodRaisin Mar 2025 #89
Together We Stand Divided We Fall MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #97
Divided we thrive. usedtobedemgurl Mar 2025 #127
So, "stand", and keep taking it? GoodRaisin Mar 2025 #181
It is recklessly JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #189
Right. GoodRaisin Mar 2025 #195
Your Doomerism Is Duly Noted MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #205
Ha! How is my position "doomerism"? GoodRaisin Mar 2025 #211
Morning Y'all! May Your Day Be Filled With All That You Love! MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #212
That is what is called a hypothetical question. GoodRaisin Mar 2025 #215
I'm personally offended that in 2025 JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #90
United We Stand Divided We Fall MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #98
Don't look now, but we've already fallen. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #107
The Reasoned Among Us Will Never Desist Because In Reason's Absence Our Freedoms Cease To Exist MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #109
Reason's absence in red states has taken away the freedoms of those states where reason is alive and well. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #110
Dissolution Is Not On The Table MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #111
Of course it is. EVERYTHING is. And reasoned Americans who recognize that are not the ones who put it there. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #112
Advocating For Dissolution Is Antithetical To The Our Nation MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #113
If the red state magats don't wake up and understand they are destroying our country, they will destroy our country. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #115
Reasoned Patriots Will Fight, Reasoned Patriots Will Not Abandon Their Fellow Americans MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #146
So what if we fall? Some of us will live in a democracy and the rest of you will live in the equivalent of Raftergirl Mar 2025 #108
Well said. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #118
Down with free speech. usedtobedemgurl Mar 2025 #116
Down With Cowardly Divisive Calls For Secession MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #126
It is not cowardly to not want to live under hitler or hitler enablers. usedtobedemgurl Mar 2025 #132
Calling For The Dissoltion Of Our Republic Is What The GOP Wants You To Do... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #140
It is hardly courageous iemanja Mar 2025 #158
I am not a coward. usedtobedemgurl Mar 2025 #160
I didn't call you a coward or anything else iemanja Mar 2025 #161
I offer this defense.... usedtobedemgurl Mar 2025 #163
I share your disgust with this administration iemanja Mar 2025 #165
But the reason it would never work is their leader is usedtobedemgurl Mar 2025 #170
"It's antithetical to our support of representative democracy." J_William_Ryan Mar 2025 #124
Hear, Hear!!! MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #125
The Constitution is no longer the law of our land. And that's on them. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #129
The two are different things. muriel_volestrangler Mar 2025 #133
Dead On Point MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #143
It's a discussion forum and people discuss ideas. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #128
Calling For The Dissolution Of Our Republic? MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #130
We must also face reality. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #134
Filtering ideas leads to group think. Hugin Mar 2025 #136
Patriots Persist -- Cowards Run And Hide MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #156
Yeah, Apartheids always work out great! Hugin Mar 2025 #135
Its a discussion board. Let them have their fantasy DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2025 #137
Yes, the red states have been a pain, but DonCoquixote Mar 2025 #139
You're Dead On Point. Thank You. MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #141
All I ever hear is that the red states want to leave again? pwb Mar 2025 #153
The divide is more rural vs urban relayerbob Mar 2025 #154
You're On Point MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #155
Protest from a red state? the_liberal_grandpa Mar 2025 #159
I'm A Democratic Party Member And Am Active Within My Community MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #162
Thank you. Those kinds of discussion ratchet up my anxiety level. Same reason I won't watch the recent Civil War movie. Alice B. Mar 2025 #168
Understood MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #172
I think your point on divisions is valid. Although even that is limited in its scope. Nulock Mar 2025 #169
May Reason Rule MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #173
Differences of opinion are what make horse races. Mark Twain Ping Tung Mar 2025 #171
Your "Safe State" Residency Is Duly Noted MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #174
Well, good luck to the Red Staters. I'm sticking with the blue horse. Ping Tung Mar 2025 #175
It's Exceptionally Difficult To Relocate For The Vast Majority Of Our Populace MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #176
Your Condescension Is Duly Noted. Dave Bowman Mar 2025 #177
Your Lack Of Understanding Is Duly Noted MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #180
So Is Yours. Dave Bowman Mar 2025 #207
Here is what I will say about that JohnSJ Mar 2025 #179
As a nation we are already divided. pandr32 Mar 2025 #186
Doomerism Is Fatalism Which Is The Cowards Way Out MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #193
I never said we will give up. pandr32 Mar 2025 #202
Right The Hell On Y'all!!! MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #203
I'm Personally Sick Of posts that cause unnecessary division in our community. You behave like a troll. EastBayGuy Mar 2025 #200
Exactly. I'm done with this poster. Iggo Mar 2025 #201
Wow. You're Sadly Misinformed MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #204
So, after over 2 years (oooohh!!!) and over 2,000 posts (ahhhhh!!!) you're here to say how things will be on DU? hatrack Mar 2025 #209
Sarcasm Duly Noted... I Fully Employ The Full Ignore Feature... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #218
I'd guess that such statements are more about expressing frustration Torchlight Mar 2025 #216
Here's To That Being The Case... I'm Just Putting Those Individuals On Full Ignore MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #217
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