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39. In the aftermath of Friday's Oval Office debacle, Team Trump apparently expects Volodymyr Zelenskyy to beg for forgivene
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 05:58 PM
Mar 2025

In the aftermath of Friday’s Oval Office debacle, Team Trump apparently expects Volodymyr Zelenskyy to beg for forgiveness — by some accounts, on camera.

The Trump White House presents Ukraine’s Zelenskyy with absurd demands.
In the aftermath of Friday’s Oval Office debacle, Team Trump apparently expects Volodymyr Zelenskyy to beg for forgiveness — by some accounts, on camera.
www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

hateGOP (@hategop.bsky.social) 2025-03-04T19:18:15.322Z

The Trump White House presents Ukraine’s Zelenskyy with absurd demands.
In the aftermath of Friday’s Oval Office debacle, Team Trump apparently expects Volodymyr Zelenskyy to beg for forgiveness — by some accounts, on camera.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-white-house-presents-ukraines-zelenskyy-absurd-demands-rcna194684

With this in mind, Fox News reported that the White House expects the Ukrainian leader to go “in front of cameras” in order to make “an explicit public apology for the way he behaved.

It’s not altogether clear exactly what Zelenskyy did that was so offensive — it apparently has something to do with his “body language” and fashion choices — but the bottom line remains the same: The White House doesn’t just expect the Ukrainian president to go along with administration’s agenda, it expects Zelenskyy to grovel.

While the Fox News report hasn’t been independently verified by MSNBC or NBC News, we need not rely on not-for-attribution comments from the West Wing. On the contrary, White House national security adviser Mike Waltz made multiple on-air appearances, insisting that Team Trump expects Zelenskyy to express “regret,” adding that this is what “we need to hear.”

As for the vice president who helped instigate Friday’s fracas, NBC News reported on JD Vance’s expectations for the road ahead.

Vice President JD Vance said tonight that Zelenskyy can return to the White House when he has a “serious proposal” for peace between his country and Russia. “There are details that really matter, that we’re already working on with the Russians. We’ve already talked to some of our allies. He needs to engage seriously on the details. I think once that happens then, absolutely, we want to talk,” Vance said in a taped interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity.

The closer one looks at the comments, the worse they appear. To hear the Ohio Republican tell it, the White House has worked with Russia on details surrounding Ukraine’s future. He now wants Zelenskyy to come up with some kind of proposal, too.....

That outcome, evidently, is not in line with the White House’s expectations. Rather, Trump, Vance and their team have a different vision in which Ukraine’s president begs for forgiveness on camera, abandons its NATO ambitions, turns over access to his country's rare-earth resources to the United States, and rewards Russia with territory.

No wonder Trump, Vance and Zelenskyy struggled to get along.

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"Cave" mr715 Mar 2025 #1
I am sorry that you find it inflammatory. HarryM Mar 2025 #5
You're A Kind Soul Y'all! MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #7
You don't know me. HarryM Mar 2025 #8
Lol... Actions Speak Louder Than Words... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #14
He knows Trump will not guarantee anything Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2025 #28
Even Then The Only Guarantee Is That Everyone With Him Is Being Thrown Under A Bus MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #30
I appreciate the sentiment mr715 Mar 2025 #9
Agreed. Zelensky Has Ukraine's Interests At The Forefront Of All Negotiations MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #6
Doesn't look like a cave to me. He's still taking about security guarantees. unblock Mar 2025 #2
He was being attacked for not wanting peace HarryM Mar 2025 #15
Poor choice (IMHO) DemMedic Mar 2025 #3
Thank's Harry! How're Things Over In The Netherlands? MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #4
Here in the Netherlands HarryM Mar 2025 #13
BBC Link to live video. HarryM Mar 2025 #10
I don't think we need to adopt the a BBC newscaster's lazy throwaway framing here on DU. Emrys Mar 2025 #36
Smart move IMO BeyondGeography Mar 2025 #11
Europe needs to be at the table. roamer65 Mar 2025 #12
It's harsh but the reality is Zelenskyy is not getting any security guarantees. Nulock Mar 2025 #16
Yeah, The US will not be dumping any more money to Ukraine HarryM Mar 2025 #18
Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #23
Quite the assertion. Torchlight Mar 2025 #31
Post now deleted to comply with forum rules. n/t Emrys Mar 2025 #34
The powers that met in Downing Street at the weekend would beg to differ, so I'd delay crowing if I were you n/t Emrys Mar 2025 #19
It's another prong of the strategy they worked out at the leaders' summit Emrys Mar 2025 #17
The only funhy part of the "minerals deal" misanthrope Mar 2025 #24
Yeah, the first eventual step would be to conduct modern surveys of what's where, never mind how much Emrys Mar 2025 #33
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE REPOST THE UKRANIAN EMBASSY EMAIL ADDRESS Karadeniz Mar 2025 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author HarryM Mar 2025 #21
Google is your friend here HarryM Mar 2025 #22
Krasnov is being out-negotiated superpatriotman Mar 2025 #25
An air and sea truce Mountainguy Mar 2025 #26
President Z...... Lovie777 Mar 2025 #27
I hope not.... Bread and Circuses Mar 2025 #29
Perhaps if you read the details about what he's signing on to... stillcool Mar 2025 #32
Yep. Emrys Mar 2025 #35
yeah...something else interesting stillcool Mar 2025 #37
He's saying... lame54 Mar 2025 #38
In the aftermath of Friday's Oval Office debacle, Team Trump apparently expects Volodymyr Zelenskyy to beg for forgivene LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #39
I don't see it as "caving" at all mcar Mar 2025 #40
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