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In reply to the discussion: Zelenskyy may give in to Mango Mussolini [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(179,047 posts)39. In the aftermath of Friday's Oval Office debacle, Team Trump apparently expects Volodymyr Zelenskyy to beg for forgivene
In the aftermath of Fridays Oval Office debacle, Team Trump apparently expects Volodymyr Zelenskyy to beg for forgiveness by some accounts, on camera.
The Trump White House presents Ukraineâs Zelenskyy with absurd demands.
— hateGOP (@hategop.bsky.social) 2025-03-04T19:18:15.322Z
In the aftermath of Fridayâs Oval Office debacle, Team Trump apparently expects Volodymyr Zelenskyy to beg for forgiveness â by some accounts, on camera.
www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
The Trump White House presents Ukraines Zelenskyy with absurd demands.
In the aftermath of Fridays Oval Office debacle, Team Trump apparently expects Volodymyr Zelenskyy to beg for forgiveness by some accounts, on camera.
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-white-house-presents-ukraines-zelenskyy-absurd-demands-rcna194684
With this in mind, Fox News reported that the White House expects the Ukrainian leader to go in front of cameras in order to make an explicit public apology for the way he behaved.
Its not altogether clear exactly what Zelenskyy did that was so offensive it apparently has something to do with his body language and fashion choices but the bottom line remains the same: The White House doesnt just expect the Ukrainian president to go along with administrations agenda, it expects Zelenskyy to grovel.
While the Fox News report hasnt been independently verified by MSNBC or NBC News, we need not rely on not-for-attribution comments from the West Wing. On the contrary, White House national security adviser Mike Waltz made multiple on-air appearances, insisting that Team Trump expects Zelenskyy to express regret, adding that this is what we need to hear.
As for the vice president who helped instigate Fridays fracas, NBC News reported on JD Vances expectations for the road ahead.
The closer one looks at the comments, the worse they appear. To hear the Ohio Republican tell it, the White House has worked with Russia on details surrounding Ukraines future. He now wants Zelenskyy to come up with some kind of proposal, too.....
That outcome, evidently, is not in line with the White Houses expectations. Rather, Trump, Vance and their team have a different vision in which Ukraines president begs for forgiveness on camera, abandons its NATO ambitions, turns over access to his country's rare-earth resources to the United States, and rewards Russia with territory.
No wonder Trump, Vance and Zelenskyy struggled to get along.
Its not altogether clear exactly what Zelenskyy did that was so offensive it apparently has something to do with his body language and fashion choices but the bottom line remains the same: The White House doesnt just expect the Ukrainian president to go along with administrations agenda, it expects Zelenskyy to grovel.
While the Fox News report hasnt been independently verified by MSNBC or NBC News, we need not rely on not-for-attribution comments from the West Wing. On the contrary, White House national security adviser Mike Waltz made multiple on-air appearances, insisting that Team Trump expects Zelenskyy to express regret, adding that this is what we need to hear.
As for the vice president who helped instigate Fridays fracas, NBC News reported on JD Vances expectations for the road ahead.
Vice President JD Vance said tonight that Zelenskyy can return to the White House when he has a serious proposal for peace between his country and Russia. There are details that really matter, that were already working on with the Russians. Weve already talked to some of our allies. He needs to engage seriously on the details. I think once that happens then, absolutely, we want to talk, Vance said in a taped interview with Fox News Sean Hannity.
The closer one looks at the comments, the worse they appear. To hear the Ohio Republican tell it, the White House has worked with Russia on details surrounding Ukraines future. He now wants Zelenskyy to come up with some kind of proposal, too.....
That outcome, evidently, is not in line with the White Houses expectations. Rather, Trump, Vance and their team have a different vision in which Ukraines president begs for forgiveness on camera, abandons its NATO ambitions, turns over access to his country's rare-earth resources to the United States, and rewards Russia with territory.
No wonder Trump, Vance and Zelenskyy struggled to get along.
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Even Then The Only Guarantee Is That Everyone With Him Is Being Thrown Under A Bus
MayReasonRule
Mar 2025
#30
Agreed. Zelensky Has Ukraine's Interests At The Forefront Of All Negotiations
MayReasonRule
Mar 2025
#6
I don't think we need to adopt the a BBC newscaster's lazy throwaway framing here on DU.
Emrys
Mar 2025
#36
The powers that met in Downing Street at the weekend would beg to differ, so I'd delay crowing if I were you n/t
Emrys
Mar 2025
#19
Yeah, the first eventual step would be to conduct modern surveys of what's where, never mind how much
Emrys
Mar 2025
#33