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In reply to the discussion: I am beginning to believe that trump will be removed from office. [View all]SomewhereInTheMiddle
(661 posts)47. While Vance is bad, I think he lacks the "charisma" for lack of a better term ...
that the Old Man has that makes his followers revere/fear him so blindly. I think Vance would lack the seemingly bottomless control the Old Man has over Congress. They might not fear his unproven influence over the voters.
He also lacks the family based grift-support structure the Organization offers.
I think Vance would be as bad as any non-Orange Repub we've seen since Bush the Elder. But he would not be as bad overall as the Old Man.
I would be willing to take that chance, with no better future on offer.
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I am beginning to believe that trump will be removed from office. [View all]
Klarkashton
Mar 2025
OP
The longer the trump/musk insanity/firings last, the more chance that violence will break out.
brush
Mar 2025
#12
I will remain hopeful but am trying to not get my hopes up at the same time.
BannonsLiver
Mar 2025
#13
trump's clown car cabinet is even worse than Nixon's. Effin Steven Miller and those...
brush
Mar 2025
#20
Actually, per the 25th Amendment Shady Vance will choose a new VP which could be someone from Congress
yellowdogintexas
Mar 2025
#40
From news clips of last night's BS session, Vance was a regular-jack-in-the-box. nt
allegorical oracle
Mar 2025
#58
My bad. I really thought he went to jail. Either way he was gone, so 25th amendment applied
yellowdogintexas
Mar 2025
#46
While Vance is bad, I think he lacks the "charisma" for lack of a better term ...
SomewhereInTheMiddle
Mar 2025
#47
Rubio, Vance, oligarchs, etc., are going to start thinking 25th Amendment as some point.
Silent Type
Mar 2025
#8
The GOP is all in on Trump. There is nothing that he can say or do that will cause them to grow a .....spine
surfered
Mar 2025
#9
Until you hypothesize who/how, there is no reason to consider its possibleness.
RockRaven
Mar 2025
#14
Well, the Speaker of the House (Johnson) seems to be starting to stand up to Trump.
Dan
Mar 2025
#21