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In reply to the discussion: Gavin Newsom breaks with Democrats on trans athletes in sports [View all]
ObamaKerryDem
(1,478 posts)29. Totally agree. I don't see him winning the EC. N/t
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A NYT/Ipsos poll in January found 67 percent of Dems believed transgender women shouldn't compete against other women.
Celerity
Mar 2025
#208
Tell that to Newsom and the Dem voters in our party who agree with him. Plus the NCAA. The Rethugs will exploit it
Celerity
Mar 2025
#222
There are only so many 80/20 issues you can be on the wrong side of and still be a viable
kelly1mm
Mar 2025
#227
Being for Civil Rights of transgender people as well as all people is not on the wrong side
Quiet Em
Mar 2025
#235
Gov Newsom is of the opinion that the most effective GOP ad against VP Harris was the 'transgender prisoners'
kelly1mm
Mar 2025
#236
Well, he's right that bigotry against transgender people worked on many voters
Quiet Em
Mar 2025
#239
Newsom is my Governor and that's fine, but I sure as hell am not in favor of him as our nominee for President if there
JohnSJ
Mar 2025
#2
He does but he is also a hard fighter for us. Fights like a Republican.
travelingthrulife
Mar 2025
#4
Yes, he walks the walk, but it is a mixed record on delivering. He sure isn't a Jerry Brown. Regardless, I just think
JohnSJ
Mar 2025
#8
I don't understand why we can't just leave this up to the individual school districts and the sports leagues
Walleye
Mar 2025
#3
It's totally prejudice. They took issue with Brittany Greiner, who has many pictures of herself in the yearbook playing
Walleye
Mar 2025
#55
Democrats didn't push this issue. That's the Republican story. They're the ones who get freaked out.
Walleye
Mar 2025
#45
They know a winning culture war issue when they see it. Democrats at best counter with 'it's complicated'. nt
kelly1mm
Mar 2025
#58
Oh I agree! Democrats will drone on and on about the science and how it is complicated, which it is. However
kelly1mm
Mar 2025
#137
Republicans did the same with same sex marriage right up until suddenly it didn't work
EdmondDantes_
Mar 2025
#166
I agree but I doubt that solution would be popular with those who disagree with Newsom.
BannonsLiver
Mar 2025
#24
I'm not OK with Republicans treating our congresswoman like shit because she's transgender
Walleye
Mar 2025
#48
I agree with all that. But they are also insulting democracy, and the whole state of Delaware, which voted her in.
Walleye
Mar 2025
#57
People should remember a Republicans were totally against equal funding for girls sports when title nine was implemented
Walleye
Mar 2025
#47
I understand your point. But GOP were able to take issue and make it seem like dems dont agree that make female bodies
Demovictory9
Mar 2025
#90
But recognizing that advocating for Trans rights can hurt the chances of Democratic election victories on a
totodeinhere
Mar 2025
#183
I've said before Democrats weren't really prepared for the complexities of the issue, and got hornswoggled by rightwing.
RoeVWade
Mar 2025
#7
The right wing also had people convinced that Democrats want to perform abortion after birth. They don't care how stupid
Walleye
Mar 2025
#50
I don't think they believe trans men exist. They are offended by the idea that a man would want to be a woman.
Walleye
Mar 2025
#52
Trans men in men's sports would not be perceived as having a hormonal advantage in sports.
LeftInTX
Mar 2025
#103
It provides context for the notion that he is "breaking with Democrats" on this issue
TheProle
Mar 2025
#20
Which begs the question whether they are reflecting the attitudes of their constituents
TheProle
Mar 2025
#44
The issue to prohibit trans women from sports is close to the line of gender discrimination
AZProgressive
Mar 2025
#107
If these transphobes would just come out and say they don't think trans women are women
AZSkiffyGeek
Mar 2025
#168
In what way did Gov. Newsom "take away" your rights? Or did he just express himself awkwardly ...
Hekate
Mar 2025
#288
Which Democrats is he breaking with? Sounds like a position firmly in the mainstream of the Democratic Party.
tritsofme
Mar 2025
#27
Prediction: He won't be the only 2028 candidate that stakes out a position on this that DUers don't agree with.
BannonsLiver
Mar 2025
#33
The party has to be taken over by AOC and Bernie. It has no hope, especially with Americans distrusting the party...
DSandra
Mar 2025
#88
Or, you can avoid the issue altogether. Or, focus entirely on populist progressive issues.
Yavin4
Mar 2025
#69
How many people in all of America are impacted by this issue vs. How many people are impacted by rising rents?
Yavin4
Mar 2025
#84
When the fuck did anyone care about Shaquille O'Neal or Michael Phelps having an unfair advantage in sports?
DSandra
Mar 2025
#142
And there are a lot of bigots here willing to go along with the Republicans on this issue
AZSkiffyGeek
Mar 2025
#114
No wonder why California hasn't said anything about protecting trans people... Doublecrossing Newsom
DSandra
Mar 2025
#81
Oh that's interesting. I have no knowledge of hormone levels due to puberty blockers.
LeftInTX
Mar 2025
#117
Yep -- she is a very talented runner and my Brother in law was talking to me about the numbers and rules
JT45242
Mar 2025
#193
Seriously? I won't vote for anyone more concerned about their political future...
Blasphemer
Mar 2025
#106
Newsom's discussion with Kirk was awful and way worse than just breaking with Dems on this issue.
Self Esteem
Mar 2025
#112
If 70 percent of Democrats agree with Newsom (See Post 17) is he breaking with them?
BannonsLiver
Mar 2025
#113
Official DU policy is that XY persons who identify as female must be allowed to play XX sports
AZJonnie
Mar 2025
#118
I'm under the impression that the avenue for questions about the TOS is the 'Ask The Administrators' forum
AZJonnie
Mar 2025
#167
I don't fully understand every intricacy of the rule nor am I telling anyone what to think or do
AZJonnie
Mar 2025
#223
My point is that if he runs in 2028 it's unlikely that his stance on this issue hurts him.
BannonsLiver
Mar 2025
#150
I'm going by what he said to a right-wing provacateur he had on his podcast
AZSkiffyGeek
Mar 2025
#199
I lost the right to travel under my correct passport because of these bigots
AZSkiffyGeek
Mar 2025
#201
That's funny, because this whole thread is about a Democratic leader throwing a minority under the bus
AZSkiffyGeek
Mar 2025
#248
I didn't realize the Dems had a coherent position on transgender people and athletics
Redleg
Mar 2025
#152
Maybe the closest thing there was to such a thing was issued by Biden's Dept of Education Civil Rights Division
AZJonnie
Mar 2025
#219
Kirk ambushes college kids, who have not thought through the issue deeply, get caught in verbal traps. Kirk's a jerk.
RoeVWade
Mar 2025
#224
I'm convinced he was the inspiration for the masturbating Nazi kid in Knives Out nt
AZSkiffyGeek
Mar 2025
#269
These threads piss me off, but they do tend to clear out some of the bigots
AZSkiffyGeek
Mar 2025
#191
My governor has been solid, very solid, on the issues. I watch his progress with interest.
Hekate
Mar 2025
#226
More precisely, he actually said it in in front of the whole world in the podcast he did with Charlie Kirk
AZJonnie
Mar 2025
#229
You must feel strongly about this issue. Half the non-deleted posts belong to you.
PeaceWave
Mar 2025
#249
If our nominee is some center or center/right candidate, we're screwed.
Cuthbert Allgood
Mar 2025
#253
It is sad, disappointing, and more than a little gross to see Dems turn on marginalized groups
Cuthbert Allgood
Mar 2025
#278