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pat_k

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35. Empathy is arguably the cornerstone of morality
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 11:59 PM
Mar 2025

There are many views on what guides moral conduct. I happen to fall into the camp that would argue that empathy is the cornerstone of morality. With that in mind, perhaps it's not surprising that a person who has no moral compass would denigrate empathy as a bad thing.

The following observations on the "radical difference of mental habit between the good character and the bad" is from The Basis of Morality by Arthur Schopenhauer

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The preponderance of either mode of viewing life not only determines single acts; it shapes a man's whole nature and temperament. Hence the radical difference of mental habit between the good character and the bad.

The latter feels everywhere that a thick wall of partition hedges him off from all others. For him the world is an absolute non-ego, and his relation to it an essentially hostile one; consequently, the key-note of his disposition is hatred, suspicion, envy, and pleasure in seeing distress.

The good character, on the other hand, lives in an external world homogeneous with his own being; the rest of mankind is not in his eyes a non-ego; he thinks of it rather as "myself once more." He therefore stands on an essentially amicable footing with every one: he is conscious of being, in his inmost nature, akin to the whole human race, takes direct interest in their weal and woe, and confidently assumes in their case the same interest in him. This is the source of his deep inward peace, and of that happy, calm, contented manner, which goes out on those around him, and is as the "presence of a good diffused."

Whereas the bad character in time of trouble has no trust in the help of his fellow-creatures. If he invokes aid, he does so without confidence: obtained, he feels no real gratitude for it; because he can hardly discern therein anything but the effect of others' folly. For he is simply incapable of recognising his own self in some one else; and this, even after it has furnished the most incontestible signs of existence in that other person: on which fact the repulsive nature of all unthankfulness in reality depends. The moral isolation, which thus naturally and inevitably encompasses the bad man, is often the cause of his becoming the victim of despair.

The good man, on the contrary, will appeal to his neighbours for assistance, with an assurance equal to the consciousness he has of being ready himself to help them. As I have said: to the one type, humanity is a non-ego; to the other, "myself once more." The magnanimous character, who forgives his enemy, and returns good for evil, rises to the sublime, and receives the highest meed of praise; because he recognises his real self even there where it is most conspicuously disowned.


As I read the following bit, DT's "suckers and losers" echoed in my head:

"he feels no real gratitude for it; because he can hardly discern therein anything but the effect of others' folly. "

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Boundless compassion for all living beings is the surest and most certain guarantee of pure moral conduct, and needs no casuistry. Whoever is filled with it will assuredly injure no one, do harm to no one, encroach on no man's rights; he will rather have regard for every one, forgive every one, help every one as far as he can, and all his actions will bear the stamp of justice and loving-kindness.

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He absolutely meets the criteria for multiple diagnoses pat_k Mar 2025 #1
Thank you for additional information. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #3
"...we don't really need a clinical evaluation." 3catwoman3 Mar 2025 #8
People have a hard time with the point we are making. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #11
And more for me to weigh in on...of course. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #26
Yes some people have a natural ability in terms of observational skills. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #31
I think there is an instinct that gets honed over time. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #33
Yes and some people may need that skill set. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #45
I saw the OP w/ the Hare list first, and then found this post. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #19
Oh don't get me started on serial killers and cold case investigations. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #20
Oh boy! I'm tapped in even more now. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #24
Very interesting study. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #25
It truly was a heavy subject, at the time. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #27
Yes it was a very heavy topic at the time especially. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #44
When I was making the case that Trump's psychopathy and pat_k Mar 2025 #36
Yes I got the same thing. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #42
Nixon exhibited many of those same characteristics. He had the decency to resign. TSF would allegorical oracle Mar 2025 #4
IMHO, Nixon was a fuzzy kitten compared to the grifter. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #28
Grimly amusing to watch the "All The President's Men" movie, now. Paladin Mar 2025 #46
There is so much wrong with him that we probably need a DSM code... 3catwoman3 Mar 2025 #5
I said an addendum to DSM, but your ideas work. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #29
Thank you. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #21
I'm not licensed to diagnose either. pat_k Mar 2025 #37
Mary Trump made a life study of one Sociopath Brother Buzz Mar 2025 #2
Yes I have followed Dr. Trump for some time. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #12
Ouch, I meant objective, not subjective Brother Buzz Mar 2025 #17
I knew exactly what you meant. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #18
She lived it, and then she learned it. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #22
Yep she lived the insanity first hand. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #23
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding chowmama Mar 2025 #6
Yes the Trump Crime Syndicate has quite a few who meet the criteria. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #13
Born or made? nt mr715 Mar 2025 #7
We don't know the answer to your great question Mr. 715? Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #14
Ha - its isn't Mr. 715 mr715 Mar 2025 #15
Mr. 715 sounds fascinating, like someone undercover. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #16
I sometimes refer to him as Frankenstein's monster. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #30
I keep thinking of this metaphor as well. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #32
But when Frankenstein's monster threw the little girl into the pond, yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #34
Yes they know it is wrong, and enjoy it. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #43
Both the orange Hitler and the Rasputin muskrat have the same symptoms kimbutgar Mar 2025 #9
Empathy is arguably the cornerstone of morality pat_k Mar 2025 #35
We usually think empathy is the sign of a civilized, advanced society. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #41
I'd definitely say Felon47 fits this sakabatou Mar 2025 #10
Yes it is quite apparent. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #40
By my count, plenty of people meet at least three of those misanthrope Mar 2025 #38
There is no research to support that many college students are sociopaths. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #39
It was merely a light-hearted point about the intricacies of diagnoses misanthrope Mar 2025 #47
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