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pat_k

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36. When I was making the case that Trump's psychopathy and

Sun Mar 9, 2025, 12:14 AM

Mar 2025

...malignant narcissism was a existential threat to the country back in 2016 and 2017, I got a different sort of push back. There were a folks who objected to the notion of diagnosing him with a mental illness because that would somehow "excuse" his conduct.

I found that view very, very odd.

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Symptoms of Antisocial Personality Disorder (Sociopath) [View all] Irish_Dem Mar 2025 OP

He absolutely meets the criteria for multiple diagnoses pat_k Mar 2025 #1

Thank you for additional information. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #3

"...we don't really need a clinical evaluation." 3catwoman3 Mar 2025 #8

People have a hard time with the point we are making. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #11

And more for me to weigh in on...of course. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #26

Yes some people have a natural ability in terms of observational skills. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #31

I think there is an instinct that gets honed over time. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #33

Yes and some people may need that skill set. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #45

I saw the OP w/ the Hare list first, and then found this post. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #19

Oh don't get me started on serial killers and cold case investigations. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #20

Oh boy! I'm tapped in even more now. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #24

Very interesting study. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #25

It truly was a heavy subject, at the time. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #27

Yes it was a very heavy topic at the time especially. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #44

When I was making the case that Trump's psychopathy and pat_k Mar 2025 #36

Yes I got the same thing. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #42

Nixon exhibited many of those same characteristics. He had the decency to resign. TSF would allegorical oracle Mar 2025 #4

IMHO, Nixon was a fuzzy kitten compared to the grifter. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #28

Grimly amusing to watch the "All The President's Men" movie, now. Paladin Mar 2025 #46

There is so much wrong with him that we probably need a DSM code... 3catwoman3 Mar 2025 #5

I said an addendum to DSM, but your ideas work. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #29

Thank you. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #21

I'm not licensed to diagnose either. pat_k Mar 2025 #37

Mary Trump made a life study of one Sociopath Brother Buzz Mar 2025 #2

Yes I have followed Dr. Trump for some time. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #12

Ouch, I meant objective, not subjective Brother Buzz Mar 2025 #17

I knew exactly what you meant. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #18

She lived it, and then she learned it. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #22

Yep she lived the insanity first hand. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #23

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding chowmama Mar 2025 #6

Yes the Trump Crime Syndicate has quite a few who meet the criteria. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #13

Born or made? nt mr715 Mar 2025 #7

We don't know the answer to your great question Mr. 715? Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #14

Ha - its isn't Mr. 715 mr715 Mar 2025 #15

Mr. 715 sounds fascinating, like someone undercover. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #16

I sometimes refer to him as Frankenstein's monster. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #30

I keep thinking of this metaphor as well. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #32

But when Frankenstein's monster threw the little girl into the pond, yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #34

Yes they know it is wrong, and enjoy it. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #43

Both the orange Hitler and the Rasputin muskrat have the same symptoms kimbutgar Mar 2025 #9

Empathy is arguably the cornerstone of morality pat_k Mar 2025 #35

We usually think empathy is the sign of a civilized, advanced society. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #41

I'd definitely say Felon47 fits this sakabatou Mar 2025 #10

Yes it is quite apparent. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #40

By my count, plenty of people meet at least three of those misanthrope Mar 2025 #38

There is no research to support that many college students are sociopaths. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #39

It was merely a light-hearted point about the intricacies of diagnoses misanthrope Mar 2025 #47