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BrianTheEVGuy

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44. Refusing to filibuster is not "refusing to fight"

Reply to HereForTheParty (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2025, 12:37 PM

Mar 2025

Dems are the minority party. The Republicans own the entire process and its outcome. There’s zero strategic benefit to filibustering.

Let the people who voted the GOP into majority party status in both houses get a nice heaping helping of what they voted for and realize it tastes a lot like dog shit. That’s how we swing things our way in the short term — special House elections — as well as in the midterms.

Filibustering accomplishes nothing. Just vote no and hang the albatross around GOP reps and senators who supported it.

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Senate Democrats appear ready to back down in government shutdown fight [View all] HereForTheParty Mar 2025 OP

LOL "risky" Ursus Rex Mar 2025 #1

Weak atreides1 Mar 2025 #2

Failure is inevitable when we must fight shit action on one side and inaction or collaboration on our side. Magoo48 Mar 2025 #35

THIS NotHardly Mar 2025 #75

"no clear end game"? bucolic_frolic Mar 2025 #3

Doesn't look like MAGAts worried about any "end game" HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #23

My money is on Colorado's Bennett and Hickenlooper to vote for fascism. Hickenlooper is on record, Hotler Mar 2025 #4

No wonder DENVERPOPS Mar 2025 #58

My candidates for most likely to vote for it are: Fetterman (already a Yes), Slotkin, Kelly, King, Hickenlooper, Gallego Celerity Mar 2025 #59

I worry about that too, and they're my senators. momta Mar 2025 #67

Some day they may learn. Jeez republianmushroom Mar 2025 #5

Yeah, but we'll all be destroyed Bettie Mar 2025 #22

Knew it MustLoveBeagles Mar 2025 #6

"Too risky". Maybe iit is to risky not to. Just a thought, I don't think "playing it safe" has done very well for us. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #7

They're gonna fold, they won't even answer the phones or respond. Tootbsb Mar 2025 #8

We can't keep getting bullied into making bad choices dammit Walleye Mar 2025 #9

As a party, we are fucking useless. Baitball Blogger Mar 2025 #10

Much like during the Vietnam War and moniss Mar 2025 #41

Why do we never get much warning about these "gvt shutdowns!!!" leftstreet Mar 2025 #11

Believe me, with or without public acknowledgement slightlv Mar 2025 #56

Profiles in equivocation. usonian Mar 2025 #12

Something rotten here newdeal2 Mar 2025 #13

Appeasement in advance dweller Mar 2025 #14

there are EIGHT Democrats standing in the way bigtree Mar 2025 #15

As opposed to the House HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #18

you're ignoring the other Democrats who are on the floor TODAY bigtree Mar 2025 #37

They need Democratic votes HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #39

Right on cue. BannonsLiver Mar 2025 #20

Of course. Voltaire2 Mar 2025 #16

Fight the republicans NOW or lose America forever! OrlandoDem2 Mar 2025 #17

They are determined to keep losing. Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #19

Are they sure they want to enable this administration? Mr. Sparkle Mar 2025 #21

They didn't even try. JBTaurus83 Mar 2025 #31

So basically they are going to bend over & say Please sir, may I have another. William769 Mar 2025 #24

That's IF we have a government ButchMcMuffin Mar 2025 #34

Exactly JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #86

But if the Repub's control the House and Senate, they don't need ANY Dem votes to pass this. Right? TheRickles Mar 2025 #25

The Senate they need at least 7. William769 Mar 2025 #32

So the measure needs 60 votes to pass the Senate? Now I get it. Thanks. TheRickles Mar 2025 #43

No problem. William769 Mar 2025 #45

Even though we don't have the votes. A unified NO vote across the board would prove to us that you're not Hotler Mar 2025 #42

If the Dems stuck together we would have the votes to block them. We could block them. We could stop them. Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #46

As a lifelong Democrat kacekwl Mar 2025 #26

We need better Democrats. Grins Mar 2025 #27

People who see nothing, hear nothing, and do nothing dalton99a Mar 2025 #28

You mean... ButchMcMuffin Mar 2025 #36

Delivering fascism JBTaurus83 Mar 2025 #29

Jesus Christ... ck4829 Mar 2025 #30

Those senators are complicit synni Mar 2025 #33

. mzmolly Mar 2025 #38

Just wait. The Dems' next Capitol steps speech will be the one that expresses the most concern yet. LuvLoogie Mar 2025 #40

Refusing to filibuster is not "refusing to fight" BrianTheEVGuy Mar 2025 #44

Josh Marshall Kali999 Mar 2025 #47

Yup, roll over and play dead, Fil1957 Mar 2025 #48

Fucking wonderful orangecrush Mar 2025 #49

This is a no brainier. Passages Mar 2025 #50

Nothing new there Katcat Mar 2025 #51

I tried calling Dick Durbins office in Washington and got a recorded message JMCKUSICK Mar 2025 #52

And if they do block it Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #53

Opposition Marvin Jones Mar 2025 #54

These spineless fools will pay at the ballot and with no donations!! Pisces Mar 2025 #55

Where are the specifics? Terrible reporting. Buddyzbuddy Mar 2025 #57

They have to be strategic Aepps22 Mar 2025 #60

What's the point in calling them weak Thrill Mar 2025 #61

My answer is to their cowardice is in my donations to requests for $$$ Moostache Mar 2025 #62

$13 billion...25 billion in 6 months ...100 billion by Christmas 3825-87867 Mar 2025 #63

Everyone should use indivisible.org to call/email their Congresspeople. LauraInLA Mar 2025 #64

They're basically telling ALL OF US to do the same Tansy_Gold Mar 2025 #65

Phoned Heinrich and Lujan. Talked to real people in both offices. "SHUT IT DOWN" n/t TygrBright Mar 2025 #66

Did the staff person say which way either would be voting? Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #76

They rarely do, so I wasn't surprised they didn't. Usually means THEY don't know yet. n/t TygrBright Mar 2025 #80

When I called Chris Murphy's office, the staffer said "believe me Sen. Murphy is a definite NO". Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #81

And so , here we are dweller Mar 2025 #68

any dem that votes for this need to be primaried moonshinegnomie Mar 2025 #69

They call it a bad bill....yet they may vote for it. spanone Mar 2025 #70

Speak up, I can't hear you.... FormerOstrich Mar 2025 #71

What we need now are some small signs to hold up Orrex Mar 2025 #72

I'm in pink ! dweller Mar 2025 #73

Call your Senators now!! Easterncedar Mar 2025 #74

If there is a shutdown there is no government, probably forever!!! Srkdqltr Mar 2025 #77

Spineless bif Mar 2025 #78

As usual, nothing to see here folks, same old, same old, please, move along. republianmushroom Mar 2025 #79

Wrong ibegurpard Mar 2025 #82

I've read contradicting things about this alarimer Mar 2025 #83

It will be a shame if they do JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #84

Gotta keep that powder dry! GPV Mar 2025 #85

if you're going to fire bigtree Mar 2025 #87

Doesn't matter. They already gutted us on their bayoneted. GPV Mar 2025 #88

Sen. Fetterman's Bluesky. Liberal In Texas Mar 2025 #89