Dem Sen Heard Yelling: 'This Will Not Be A Normal Shutdown'

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46. No that is wrong. The government is already in shutdown.

we must stop fearing a "possible shutdown". it is already upon us. This is the only big leverage we have at the moment, and that is only because the media will pay no attention until they perceive an "official shutdown".

There is zero point in negotiating with Republicans at this point. We should be placing our objectives and demands in front of the media and the American people and proceeding as if the full shutdown is already underway.

This is the only course that makes any sense. Capitulating with what Trump and the Republicans want to do places us fully into authoritarian mode.

And to hell with Gillibrand and Fetterman. Let Trump declare state of emergency and martial law. How is that any worse than letting Trump have zero limits under this GOP bill?

Some people will wake up when Trump declares martial law. The sooner the better.