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JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 11:20 AM Mar 2025

There were no good options with the choices that the Democrats had in the Senate on the CR, that wasn't the point. [View all]

The base was looking for some actual UNIFED push back from the Democrats in Congress against this authoritative regime, and they failed miserably.

All they had to do was show that they were tired of the lawless abusive administration, and they couldn't even do that.

What would have happened if the government shut down?

People affected would start screaming.

Would that have moved the rethugs in Congress to work with the Democrats? Probably not, but what it would have done is got the attention of the public that something very wrong was happening.

We should have been following the example of the Civil Rights movement.

If Rosa Parks had moved to the back of the bus when told to sit in the "back of the bus", or African Americans didn't sit at segregated lunch counters, etc. does anyone really believe that the Civil Rights abuses would have stopped on their own?

The problem isn't that there was no good options, the problem was we didn't demonstrate that we were willing to fight, and that is pathetic, to give up before you even start.

Even if they only did it for a few days, in those few days they could have gotten out and explained to the public why this was being done.

There will be a price for this, just as there was a price for those who refused to vote for VP Harris on November 5.

Just saying that we are doing this because it will hurt people more if we didn't, doesn't cut it. Maybe it is time that a few people are affected by this so they understand the abusiveness that the cult they call the republican party is doing

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K&R Docreed2003 Mar 2025 #1
THIS NotHardly Mar 2025 #30
You are absolutley correct. William769 Mar 2025 #2
Shutting down the government would have hurt Democrats, not the GOP. valleyrogue Mar 2025 #3
+1. the "show 'em we're mad as hell!" routine stopdiggin Mar 2025 #8
If what you say is true, why didn't the majority party Emile Mar 2025 #9
It would have affected everyone. What do you think will happen when this happens again? JohnSJ Mar 2025 #11
This +1 Emile Mar 2025 #37
Just a question for you sagetea Mar 2025 #27
I disagree strongly with your assumptions. NotHardly Mar 2025 #31
disagree nt Celerity Mar 2025 #36
it still amounts to argung for a shutdown stopdiggin Mar 2025 #4
Repugs did not cross the aisle. Not in the House or Senate, No democratic input. GreenWave Mar 2025 #5
If the base needs rallying then we are indeed in trouble. Personally, at this point we should be focusing on winning Silent Type Mar 2025 #6
This sort of thing affects voting in a terrible way...people think why even bother. Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #14
Collusion Timewas Mar 2025 #7
the option was either a CR - or a shutdown stopdiggin Mar 2025 #10
I don't believe there would have been a shut down and even so Trump would have been blamed. Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #15
we were within hours of a shutdown stopdiggin Mar 2025 #17
No winners Timewas Mar 2025 #16
There was no Continuing Resolution of the original House budget. CountMyVote4Reality Mar 2025 #21
it was what was on the table - for an up or down vote - at zero hour stopdiggin Mar 2025 #38
This bill is bad...it enables Musk and people will literally die. Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #12
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2025 #13
Oh, great wryter2000 Mar 2025 #18
I have to sit this one out. My wish would be a governtment shut-up, not shut-down. twodogsbarking Mar 2025 #19
The base had a unified push back. Schumer and 8 Dems and 1 Ind chose to ignore the majority of the Senate Democrats Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #20
Why blame the Democratic congress members? Turbineguy Mar 2025 #22
I don't get why democrats would blame their Emile Mar 2025 #39
I think Senator Schumer has been around the block enough times to understand Erda Mar 2025 #23
IMO, I think he provided cover for the centrists. Emile Mar 2025 #40
The GQP had another option relayerbob Mar 2025 #24
I suspect that is exactly what they would have done. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #25
I've little doubt relayerbob Mar 2025 #32
What raised consciousness during the civil rights movement? Frasier Balzov Mar 2025 #26
Authoritarian regime. SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #28
Amazing Cirsium Mar 2025 #29
Everyone will be hurt. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #34
Totally agree -misanthroptimist Mar 2025 #33
I agree. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #35
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