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Initech

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63. I still contend that debate was a setup and a hit job.

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Sat Mar 15, 2025, 12:33 PM

Mar 2025

Trump's team got the questions ahead of time and he wouldn't shut up. The election was rigged from the beginning.

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I hope everyone here that wanted Biden forced out are happy with themselves. [View all] we can do it Mar 2025 OP

I'd be happy to know the complete uncut story. marble falls Mar 2025 #1

Trolls amped up demands to step down. They also attacked those of us standing up for PJB - all of them gone now. we can do it Mar 2025 #62

No primary or anything. If someone wanted Emile Mar 2025 #78

A primary? There was no time for a primary...we would have lost just the same. Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #87

A primary would have started a year earlier. Emile Mar 2025 #89

Every single time we have primaryed a president we lost the election... Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #94

Well, Some of Us RobinA Mar 2025 #146

Trolls convinced President Biden to withdraw? MichMan Mar 2025 #80

Trolls HERE amped up demands - better? we can do it Mar 2025 #90

Oh, some are still here...and I mean here here Prairie Gates Mar 2025 #101

So why post flame bait for the trolls? live love laugh Mar 2025 #109

I was all for Joe Biden, especially after the great job he did at the State of the Union appearance. brush Mar 2025 #111

It wasn't just a bad night. At SOTU, he read from teleprompter, but reporting at the time told us... thesquanderer Mar 2025 #117

Agreed about Harris. I still don't believe she lost every swing state. brush Mar 2025 #119

Joe wasn't winning that election HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #2

Prove it. You can't. n/t valleyrogue Mar 2025 #6

Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #18

Correct. He should have bowed out in early 2023 so we could have had a fair primary season and nominated beaglelover Mar 2025 #45

He should've announced right after the midterms in 2022 that he wasn't going to run. Yavin4 Mar 2025 #51

That's not just the Democrats The Revolution Mar 2025 #74

He said he would be the bridge to the next generation as 1 term president Ferryboat Mar 2025 #52

That's the weird thing.... DiamondShark Mar 2025 #55

Given that he was 78 in 2020, I certainly thought he would only serve one term - trying to serve as president Midwestern Democrat Mar 2025 #58

Are we really going down the path of age shaming? DiamondShark Mar 2025 #59

During early primaries in a crowded field of candidates. Ferryboat Mar 2025 #124

He stated he was going to be a transitional administration MichMan Mar 2025 #82

That is so odd... DiamondShark Mar 2025 #103

Believe it or not MichMan Mar 2025 #125

Interesting... DiamondShark Mar 2025 #133

It was a statement he made in 2020 MichMan Mar 2025 #134

Okie Dokie. DiamondShark Mar 2025 #136

All depends on how the second debate would have went Polybius Mar 2025 #67

There's nothing to indicate qazplm135 Mar 2025 #77

I know Polybius Mar 2025 #83

VP Harris immediately did better than President Biden in polls muriel_volestrangler Mar 2025 #118

You can't prove he would have won either.... MichMan Mar 2025 #135

Yes he was, handily New Breed Leader Mar 2025 #25

Aren't you in the same boat? Nice avatar lame54 Mar 2025 #99

Putin/Musk/Trump stole the election. Didn't matter which Dem ran. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #3

You're right. Trump virtually admitted it. Ritabert Mar 2025 #81

I wish I could believe this election was stolen but I don't. Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #95

It's painful to lose but lose we did ZRB Mar 2025 #123

Exactly. That is the bottom line. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #130

Joe would have lost as well. berksdem Mar 2025 #4

Wrong. nt valleyrogue Mar 2025 #7

Correct... FBaggins Mar 2025 #15

Solid analysis berksdem Mar 2025 #144

NO HE WOULD NOT HAVE LOST New Breed Leader Mar 2025 #21

Yes he would have RJ-MacReady Mar 2025 #22

WRONG New Breed Leader Mar 2025 #23

i wish that were the case RJ-MacReady Mar 2025 #24

He didn't win in a landslide with covid EdmondDantes_ Mar 2025 #37

Landslide? Polybius Mar 2025 #68

Did you not look at his approval ratings... Melon Mar 2025 #102

You fail to understand Biden's ties to the rustbelt. He could have won if Democrats Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #104

VA isn't really fully blue just yet. spooky3 Mar 2025 #127

I agree claudette Mar 2025 #29

I think he had a chance...but we doomed ourselves by forcing him out. Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #96

they're so happy that they're now trying to force both Democratic leaders in Congress out bigtree Mar 2025 #5

Schumer was a great leader for sane, Democracy driven times Takket Mar 2025 #9

Schumer was never a "great" leader. yardwork Mar 2025 #40

Not to mention if it were not for him, valleyrogue Mar 2025 #10

Why do you ask? Because you think he would have won? Takket Mar 2025 #8

Why do you think he wouldn"t other than the media told you to think valleyrogue Mar 2025 #14

FELON would've stolen it for F45 no matter which Dem ran SheltieLover Mar 2025 #11

Yup orangecrush Mar 2025 #41

I wonder because they tried obviously with B in 2020 as well on some level Meowmee Mar 2025 #122

I don't think we can have an honest discussion about Biden and his decision to run in '24. tman Mar 2025 #12

He was sabotaged from within. valleyrogue Mar 2025 #16

Dems could have stepped up and defended his reccord right then but didn't. we can do it Mar 2025 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2025 #13

These types of posts are pointless. And weird. n/t demmiblue Mar 2025 #17

I agree Rebl2 Mar 2025 #31

Let them hash it out stoned Mar 2025 #50

I just wish he had dropped out in the fall of 2023 Buckeyeblue Mar 2025 #19

That would have been the way to go, pushing him out 4 month's before election was not. we can do it Mar 2025 #64

Even with around the clock coverage it takes time to frame your message Buckeyeblue Mar 2025 #75

History tell us incumbency wins elections...every time we lose Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #105

I don't New Breed Leader Mar 2025 #20

Clooney and his wife will be peachy XanaDUer2 Mar 2025 #43

Me too. An awful way to treat a kind human who was very effective. we can do it Mar 2025 #66

The trolls shouldn't get off lightly. DiamondShark Mar 2025 #70

Clooney and his wife are now separated. Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #106

I think it was the people around Biden who did us no favors. Tell it straight to your own, because it does no one any RoeVWade Mar 2025 #26

I love Joe Biden like he's a member of my family. But I hate this second-guessing. Walleye Mar 2025 #27

I still tip the scale at the election was stolen. FarPoint Mar 2025 #28

Oh please. That's not the issue. Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #30

Some of ya'lls backs must be aching real bad from moving those goalposts New Breed Leader Mar 2025 #32

It was the claudette Mar 2025 #33

This XanaDUer2 Mar 2025 #42

Wow. I guess the other side doesn't own reality detachment. BannonsLiver Mar 2025 #73

Nothing there is reality based qazplm135 Mar 2025 #79

I'm way more sad that a bunch of idiots, conmen, crooks, and ignorant voted for a man like Trump. PERIOD. RoeVWade Mar 2025 #34

Best OP so far today. William769 Mar 2025 #35

✌🏼 we can do it Mar 2025 #86

I doubt that anyone on DU had any say in the matter. yardwork Mar 2025 #36

No. Wrong. Blaming the dems doesn't help anyone but the GOP. Covid and maga are to blame. lindysalsagal Mar 2025 #38

I love Kamala and worked my butt off for her. we can do it Mar 2025 #97

Yes. I didn't want Kamala's future ruined by LeftInTX Mar 2025 #143

Oh lord are we going to rehash thisagain and agin? indusurb Mar 2025 #39

Joe should have won and if ability and Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #44

Anyone who would choose Trump over Biden or Kamala wasn't a sane and sure vote anyway, IMO. RoeVWade Mar 2025 #46

Now we know Bluestocking Mar 2025 #47

Many times he lost his train of thought pattyloutwo Mar 2025 #48

Dont worry they have already moved on Johonny Mar 2025 #49

Sheldon Whitehouse reminded Democrats, "Don't form a circular firing squad". jmbar2 Mar 2025 #53

Time to get over it. Elected Democrats and Democratic leadership wanted Biden gone. Autumn Mar 2025 #54

I will never get over it. People will die because of such actions. Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #108

Then live with it. That's your burden to bear. There are those of us who followed the Democratic party Autumn Mar 2025 #115

The mood here went from doom and gloom to excited Kaleva Mar 2025 #56

Biden would not have won and by less... So this is not the call out you think it is. LizBeth Mar 2025 #57

That is just not true...Biden had a special relationship with the rustbelt...which Kamala Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #110

Nah... he couldn't LizBeth Mar 2025 #112

Yep I agree dwayneb Mar 2025 #120

Would this be a good time to start a Merrick Garland Appreciation thread? Blue Owl Mar 2025 #60

Back in 84 BluenFLA Mar 2025 #61

There are differences though Polybius Mar 2025 #69

Reagan was never sharp except as an actor. PufPuf23 Mar 2025 #132

That's what I said about Reagan Polybius Mar 2025 #142

Mondale was not Trump. Crunchy Frog Mar 2025 #138

I still contend that debate was a setup and a hit job. Initech Mar 2025 #63

Even if he did, it wouldn't explain Biden's performance Polybius Mar 2025 #72

Trump's response was that he didn't shut the fuck up. Initech Mar 2025 #76

I saw a video comparing Biden's 2012 and 2024 debates Polybius Mar 2025 #88

DeJoy slow walking the mail in votes in Big Blue Cities... GreenWave Mar 2025 #65

Hoo boy. BannonsLiver Mar 2025 #71

I said that at the time. I was against replacing Biden...we should of rallied around him. Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #84

And I m saddened beyond words to say this: moonscape Mar 2025 #128

Which demographic didn't vote for Harris but would have voted for Biden? Shrek Mar 2025 #85

Trump might have won anyway Progressive dog Mar 2025 #91

The bottom line is everytime we screw with a sitting president, we lose. Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #92

He stays in, we lose dozens more House seats and a handful more in the Senate, plus governorships. ZRB Mar 2025 #98

That is untrue...we will never know of course...but history tells us incumbents almost always Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #114

You may be right ZRB Mar 2025 #121

I hope that everyone H2O Man Mar 2025 #100

I wish that he would have kept his 1 term insinuation. JanMichael Mar 2025 #107

Agree. And Joe likely would've lost by wider margins than Kamala did, radius777 Mar 2025 #140

It wasn't DU as much as it was DNC types, PACs and major donors. LeftInTX Mar 2025 #113

cough! cough! Bernie Sanders cough! mike_c Mar 2025 #116

You're expending canetoad Mar 2025 #126

After reading most of the replies what is the point of having this doc03 Mar 2025 #129

really? that's who's to blame?! ecstatic Mar 2025 #131

I haven't read this long thread so moonscape Mar 2025 #137

No, the problem with the election is that Fascism appeals to a large enough portion of the voting population to elect artemisia1 Mar 2025 #139

Joe should have announced he wasn't running after the midterms pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #141

I think pointing fingers often provides us a sense of accomplishment. Torchlight Mar 2025 #145