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Uncle Joe

(65,163 posts)
37. Why wouldn't they?
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 07:28 PM
Mar 2025


Sanders–Trump voters


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In an interview with Vox, Schaffner highlighted the fact that Sanders–Trump voters were much less likely to identify as Democrats than Sanders voters who voted for Clinton or a third-party candidate.[7] According to Schaffner, about half of the voting bloc identified themselves as Republicans or independents.[4] Data from the VOTER survey showed that only 35% of Sanders–Trump voters voted for Democratic incumbent Barack Obama in the 2012 election; in contrast, 95% of Sanders-Clinton voters voted for Obama in 2012.[1]

Compared to average Democratic Party voters, Sanders–Trump voters were much more conservative on racial and social issues. Over 40% of Sanders–Trump voters disagreed that white people have advantages, compared to less than 10% of Sanders voters who voted for Clinton.[7] Compared to the average Sanders voter, Sanders–Trump voters tend to be white and older. The CCES survey showed that only between 17% and 18% of Sanders–Trump voters identified themselves as ideologically liberal, with the rest either identifying as moderate or conservative.[7] In the VOTER survey, Sanders–Trump voters rated minority groups less favorably than Sanders-Clinton voters; this included Latinos, Muslims and LGBT people.[1] According to both the CCES and VOTER surveys, Sanders–Trump voters' views on trade policy are largely similar to typical Democrats, despite Sanders' relative opposition to free trade deals.[1][7]

Jeff Stein of Vox suggested that many Sanders–Trump voters may have been Reagan Democrats who were white and pro-union.[7] Political scientist John M. Sides suggested that many Sanders–Trump voters were unlikely to support Clinton in the first place.[1] Writing in RealClearPolitics, Tim Chapman, executive director of conservative advocacy group Heritage Action, suggested that both Trump and Sanders had strong populist appeal, especially to working-class voters in the heartland, despite their starkly different policies.[9] In 2020, Schaffner suggested that Sanders' appeal to Sanders–Trump voters in 2016 was due to his outsider status, his populist policies, and his targeting of issues which affected groups of people Trump attempted to court in his 2016 campaign.[4]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanders%E2%80%93Trump_voters


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"Tax breaks" there's another semantic trick. What they mean is defund the United States government. Walleye Mar 2025 #1
I listen to Bernie stoned Mar 2025 #2
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Mar 2025 #3
Thanks. I'm getting tired of seeing defense of appeasement politics. Yavin4 Mar 2025 #4
I watched that whole thing and I didn't see a single "BERNIE FLIPS MAGA!" SunSeeker Mar 2025 #5
Did you not hear the call and response that he did with the crowd? Yavin4 Mar 2025 #6
How do you know they were MAGA voters? I have relatives in red states who aren't MAGA voters pnwmom Mar 2025 #11
lol, so now we have to prove who voted for who before people can listen questionseverything Mar 2025 #23
"Enjoy the camps"?! What a horrible thing to say to say to a DUer. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #27
Your hatred of Bernie makes people upset and drives them off questionseverything Mar 2025 #32
WTF. I don't hate Bernie. I hate clickbait, which is what this video is. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #36
If this is your idea of uniting people, I don't know what to say questionseverything Mar 2025 #42
The OP bashing Newsom with a clickbait video is what is hurting unity. nt SunSeeker Mar 2025 #46
Of course I heard that. That was not with MAGAts. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #13
Why wouldn't they? Uncle Joe Mar 2025 #37
Some might. But that video doesn't show Bernie "flipping MAGA." SunSeeker Mar 2025 #47
They flipped for *rump only after they voted for Bernie, and he lost the primary. Uncle Joe Mar 2025 #51
Correct. betsuni Mar 2025 #48
Some will never see it, they don't want to. Passages Mar 2025 #17
I wanted to! I sat through a whole 13 minute video hoping to see Bernie flip a MAGAt. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #25
No one is insulting you. If you honestly believe Sanders is not reaching Republicans/MAGA Passages Mar 2025 #26
Explain why you think MAGAts are coming to Bernie rallies. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #28
Prove a negative? Passages Mar 2025 #29
Look, the video thumbnail showed a guy in a MAGA hat. Where is he in the video?? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #33
I believe you are missing the point. Passages Mar 2025 #35
He's been to one red state - Nebraska Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #39
So we can file your response as, " not good enough, Bernie " questionseverything Mar 2025 #43
No, you are missing my point. That video and the OP is clickbait. And shows a dishonest thumbnail. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #40
With one exception, the places Bernie went to on his tour were NOT red cities Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #38
Me, neither. And how do we know the people in the audience weren't already Bernie supporters? nt pnwmom Mar 2025 #10
We know they're not. MAGAts don't go to Bernie rallies. nt SunSeeker Mar 2025 #14
You don't think scared people worried about losing their retirement questionseverything Mar 2025 #24
Why would a MAGAt come to question Bernie? SunSeeker Mar 2025 #30
Like I said , there's no reason for you trying to split us questionseverything Mar 2025 #34
I am not trying to split us, the OP is, by bagging on Newsom's podcasts. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #41
Yes, there were no audience questions. It was a speech. betsuni Mar 2025 #49
Yep. I clicked that expecting to see Bernie talking to a magat. No magat! GoodRaisin Mar 2025 #19
Thought the same thing Mountainguy Mar 2025 #20
We are pretty close to dead in the water so why bash Bernie? questionseverything Mar 2025 #22
I am not bashing Bernie. I am pissed at the false description of the video. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #31
13 minutes of wasted time, huh? lol questionseverything Mar 2025 #44
No, now you and the others repeatedly commenting to me is what is sucking my time. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #45
And how many progressives has he successfully got MAGA Republicans to elect in red districts/states? W_HAMILTON Mar 2025 #7
Doesn't Work Aepps22 Mar 2025 #8
As long as Trump hates the people they hate, the MAGAs will keep voting for him. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #9
They love our policies but that doesn't mean they will elect candidates who hold fundraisers in Wine Caves ... Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2025 #15
The Magat is a JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #16
Exactly. MAGAts vote for "cultural" reasons (bigotry); they're afraid people of color are changing "white culture." SunSeeker Mar 2025 #18
Many more articulate moderate Dems need to do this. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2025 #12
The other thing that we were told at a corporate phylny Mar 2025 #21
Why would anyone think Democrats don't talk about economic struggles? They don't just talk and yell, they DO. betsuni Mar 2025 #50
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