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Celerity

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Tue Mar 18, 2025, 08:36 AM Mar 18

The Blue State Exodus Should Scare Democrats: The electoral consequences could be massive. [View all]



https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/the-blue-state-exodus-should-scare

In 2021, California’s population declined for the first time since earning statehood in 1850. In 2022, it declined again. And then again in 2023. For a state historically defined by limitless opportunity and an ever-growing population, three straight years of decline delivered a cold dose of reality: things weren't working. The Golden State, of course, is not alone. Since Covid, the biggest blue states have dramatically lagged behind the biggest Republican states in population growth. Between 2020 and 2024, California, New York, and Illinois each lost more than 100,000 thousand residents. Florida and Texas, meanwhile, both gained around 2 million residents. The disparity is shocking.

It is tempting to chalk up the unprecedented decline to Covid. Now that the pandemic has faded, numbers will even out, some might argue. Nothing more than a blip. But the most recent figures confirm that the reasons behind the blue-state population decline run much deeper than Covid. Even though case counts are a thing of the past, populous red states continue to lap their blue counterparts. Between July 2023 and July 2024, Florida and Texas gained more than 1 million residents combined. Illinois, New York, and California barely broke 400,000 cumulatively.

Though certainly exacerbated by the virus, policy failures are ultimately at fault. Disastrous housing shortages, needlessly burdensome environmental regulations, the mind-boggling mess that is California’s high-speed rail project. The examples go on and on. Thankfully, left-of-center intellectuals are coming to terms with a much-needed course correction (though some have been there for a while). Marc Dunkelman’s Why Nothing Works and Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson’s Abundance both attempt to address the problem—and a broader “Abundance Agenda” seems to slowly be gaining purchase with some policymakers.

But most elected Democrats remain oblivious or even contemptuous of the reforms needed to right the ship. If the policy benefits are an insufficient carrot, then perhaps the frightening electoral costs will jolt Democrats into action: if blue-state populations don’t rebound soon, the 2030s presidential map could start to look very dicey. Estimates from the American Redistricting Project predict that California is on track to lose three House seats—and three electoral votes—after 2030’s reapportionment. New York could drop 2 seats. Minnesota, Oregon, Rhode Island, and Illinois all might lose a seat. Meanwhile, Texas and Florida are each projected to gain a whopping 4 seats. Idaho and Utah, too, will tack on an additional seat.

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May want to watch those two mwmisses4289 Mar 18 #1
The evidence does not back any of that up. Self Esteem Mar 18 #12
Florida has been the biggest MAGAt magnet in the country for years. Mariana Mar 18 #17
Judging by recent turnout, John Farmer Mar 18 #47
I don't know why you would think so. Mariana Mar 18 #48
I think Climate Change will be our friend in the... S/V Loner Mar 18 #25
Florida is in the climate change bullseye bronxiteforever Mar 18 #53
This is simply not true pinkstarburst Mar 18 #31
Cost of housing seems to be a major factor. The Madcap Mar 18 #2
Don't see insurance doing anything but going way up in California MichMan Mar 18 #32
It's going to go up everywhere! Grins Mar 18 #52
Housing prices in Florida are going down. People are tired of the hurricanes. kerry-is-my-prez Mar 18 #44
Also post-Covid it's a lot easier and more commonplace for people to work from home. meadowlander Mar 18 #51
CA and NY need more housing yesterday. Ace Rothstein Mar 18 #3
Nonsense. travelingthrulife Mar 18 #4
No, it is quite a real possibility (to what level remains to be seen, but we will extremely likely lose net seats) Celerity Mar 18 #7
The fact is blue states tend to be more expensive to live in. Liberal In Texas Mar 18 #5
A "Liberal Patriot" still tied to his American Enterprise Institute displacedvermoter Mar 18 #6
other articles from different sources on the same subject Celerity Mar 18 #10
Texas and Florida do not have cheap housing anymore. At least in the major metros newdeal2 Mar 18 #8
I have also read various articles mwmisses4289 Mar 18 #9
What percentage of people who move there leave within two to five years? Mariana Mar 18 #19
Articles didn't specify. mwmisses4289 Mar 18 #29
I live in one of those areas people are moving to pinkstarburst Mar 18 #33
I remember the headlines about how the Evangelical Christians were turning on Trump. Mariana Mar 18 #38
They may not have "cheap" housing pinkstarburst Mar 18 #34
Of course many red states are terribly gerrymandered, markodochartaigh Mar 18 #11
Gerrymandering doesn't affect statewide elections Mariana Mar 18 #39
"Gerrymandering doesn't affect statewide elections..." markodochartaigh Mar 18 #40
Please explain how they can gerrymander a whole state. Mariana Mar 18 #41
Gerrymandering any part of the state, in itself, markodochartaigh Mar 18 #43
let me try a little to answer this Dan Mar 18 #56
You haven't explained how that affects statewide races. Mariana Mar 18 #57
You are correct that it is damn near impossible to Gerrymander Dan Mar 18 #58
What these analysis seem to assume drmeow Mar 18 #13
We've seen what happened in Florida. Mariana Mar 18 #20
Florida has shifted right in each of the last three presidential elections. Self Esteem Mar 18 #24
Texas was more red than New York was blue. Ace Rothstein Mar 18 #27
People assume Texas will be blue/purple because of Hispanics pinkstarburst Mar 18 #36
With global warming, both Texas and Florida will be difficult and expensive to live in. Swede Mar 18 #14
Toss in a couple of Cat-5 strikes up the Galveston ship channel, or through Tampa Bay, and things will change . . . hatrack Mar 18 #18
Hopefully, those moving from blue states will instill more Democratic principles in red states. Silent Type Mar 18 #15
If democratic voters move to red states OnionPatch Mar 18 #16
They haven't done so yet EdmondDantes_ Mar 18 #21
New York was closer to turning Red than Florida was to turning Blue last election. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 18 #23
The only people who can safely move to those states Mariana Mar 18 #49
I find it hard to believe that NC wouldn't gain a seat dsc Mar 18 #22
Ah but when Trump annexes Canada... GreatGazoo Mar 18 #26
"needlessly burdensome environmental regulations"-This says it all for me.🙄 58Sunliner Mar 18 #28
We'll see tintinvotes Mar 18 #30
"Why don't we knock it off with them negative waves?" NowsTheTime Mar 18 #35
Jobs and housing are the only reason i am in TX JCMach1 Mar 18 #37
It's a big reason lots of people are in TX pinkstarburst Mar 18 #42
NC should be considered a blue state John Farmer Mar 18 #45
NC is a blue state John Farmer Mar 18 #46
NC has only voted for a Dem POTUS twice in the past 60 years (Carter in 1976, and Obama in 2008) so, no it's not Blue Celerity Mar 18 #55
California is a HUGE mind bogglingly diverse state senseandsensibility Mar 18 #50
Stuff like this is pure noise. The thing that should concern democrats is SSJVegeta Mar 18 #54
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