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MrChuck

(316 posts)
37. The party is only the party until they're not.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 03:08 PM
Mar 2025

I'm in my 50's. I've been a Democrat for over thirty years. I have seen greatness and I have seen massive disappointment.

We all need to be honest with ourselves and stop paying homage to a word that not only headlines this group but covers a shifting political paradigm in the mainstream consciousness.

I have no loyalty to any party. My loyalty is to principles that, historically, have been better represented by the Democratic party than others. While it's not ONLY the Democratic party that has changed over that time, the party HAS changed and not always for the better.

We have fielded candidates that were simply not positioned to win. I've watched good candidates get torpedoed by the opposition who almost always seem poised to win and will go to whatever lengths to do so. I've been proud in defeat a number of times as a result of that, knowing that my party didn't resort to "dirty pool" to achieve political victories. The question in my mind now is how we have continued to allow the opposition to get away with their chicanery and duplicitous practice.

When Bernie Sanders reminds us that he's not a Democrat and tells us that Democrats didn't accomplish much I interpret that as meaning that we don't achieve AS A PARTY the goals that are paramount in this country. I don't interpret it as an attack on individual Democrats but as a valid criticism of the effectiveness of our party's tactical execution.

Interested to hear feedback.

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Thanks for this post! nt LAS14 Mar 2025 #1
Every minute you spend criticizing good Democrats... W_HAMILTON Mar 2025 #2
Exactly! H2O Man Mar 2025 #3
Who gets to define 'good Democrats'? The very nature of 'good Democrats' opens the door to defining 'bad ones' as well, Celerity Mar 2025 #5
Which ones are the good ones and which ones are the bad ones? Yavin4 Mar 2025 #10
To a lot of people Bettie Mar 2025 #15
But if they aren't "good"? alarimer Mar 2025 #18
It's called discernment. BattleRow Mar 2025 #41
That post criticizing Tim Walz was 100% unfounded obamanut2012 Mar 2025 #4
I saw that one. They're going after Walz, they're going after Newsom & Pritzker too.... Hekate Mar 2025 #7
OMG did you see the one where they went after Emile Mar 2025 #11
Not especially Hekate Mar 2025 #14
It was a centrist hit piece with a twisted heading Emile Mar 2025 #32
Their minds are made up. aocommunalpunch Mar 2025 #33
IMO, it's funny how that NY hit piece came out Emile Mar 2025 #42
Blaming Biden for the trump presidency really sounded like bashing to me, especially ... Hekate Mar 2025 #6
Biden was not clear on being a two term President when he ran in 2020 Mr.WeRP Mar 2025 #8
Thank you Mr.WeRP. K & R Emile Mar 2025 #9
Oli-what-y? aocommunalpunch Mar 2025 #12
Well, 54% of the adult US population barely reads at 6th grade level or worse Mr.WeRP Mar 2025 #16
I'll bet some Democrat invented the Big Tent to keep the party from collapsing. Ping Tung Mar 2025 #13
Of course not mcar Mar 2025 #17
I strongly disagree IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 2025 #30
K mcar Mar 2025 #35
When they cave like a melting snow fort it's very called for! LW1977 Mar 2025 #36
As I said, criticizing is fine, IMO mcar Mar 2025 #43
BartCop was always using that term Spineless' too IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 2025 #50
Most of "criticisms" that I see (when on jury) are nothing but bashing; no analysis, no practical remedies, just rant.nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #19
You better READ MLK Jr Letter From The Birmingham Jail !! IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 2025 #34
That is the complete opposite of the malcontents bashing Democratic figures on DU! Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #39
BS...remember 'freedom of speech'? NotHardly Mar 2025 #20
Not BS. Read DU terms of service and look at the "Don't bash Democratic figures" point when you alert next. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #22
Exactly stoned Mar 2025 #44
Not quite right. If you are free-speech absolutist, you can say that Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #52
You too NEED TO READ ...MLKJr's LETTER FROM THE BIRMINGHAM JAIL IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 2025 #46
That is the opposite of the Dem-bashing posts! Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #49
self-reflection Be Leave On Mar 2025 #21
There is a big difference between thoughtful analytical self-reflection and the raw bashing that gets alerted on. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #23
I don't suppose you can mount this over the door, can you? OldBaldy1701E Mar 2025 #24
Unpopular opinion: loyalty to a political party is stupid. SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #25
Lincoln had to change generals a few times before he found Grant Mysterian Mar 2025 #26
Interesting. stoned Mar 2025 #27
Criticism and bashing can be synonyms Kaleva Mar 2025 #28
Really depends SocialDemocrat61 Mar 2025 #29
There's a forum for that, not General Discussion. hunter Mar 2025 #31
The party is only the party until they're not. MrChuck Mar 2025 #37
Then don't be on "Democratic" Underground. LisaM Mar 2025 #48
I ageee! Bread and Circuses Mar 2025 #38
Please stop this. LisaM Mar 2025 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Mar 2025 #45
Any political party that believes its' leaders are infallible become extremely vulnerable to morphing into a cult. Uncle Joe Mar 2025 #47
I've always been principle over party. When the Democrats are wrong, they are wrong. AZLD4Candidate Mar 2025 #51
IMHO, A key difference between bashing and criticizing fairly spooky3 Mar 2025 #53
You had me till you said "oligarchy". William769 Mar 2025 #54
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