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Self Esteem

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213. So, why did this demographic vote for Hillary overwhelmingly in 2016?

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Fri Mar 21, 2025, 06:21 PM

Mar 2025

Or was she not a woman?

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We cannot win by hating our fellow Americans. [View all] kentuck Mar 2025 OP

Once again, a call for the Left to reach out to the fuckheads who want to destroy us Orrex Mar 2025 #1

THe recipe for defeat... kentuck Mar 2025 #2

Well, then they can go fuck themselves even harder. Orrex Mar 2025 #3

As opposed to the sunshine and roses we've experienced so far? hatrack Mar 2025 #24

I will point you to the words of Rebecca Solnit - GoneOffShore Mar 2025 #25

That's excellent Orrex Mar 2025 #33

Most excellent! I'm keeping a copy of this. CrispyQ Mar 2025 #64

Hard to be open to people that keep shouting "The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.". Hotler Mar 2025 #84

Too be fair, they all don't say that. Omnipresent Mar 2025 #103

Yes, they do Cirsium Mar 2025 #145

Doubling down on an erroneous statement is not the Democratic Party way. Omnipresent Mar 2025 #195

Whatever that is supposed to mean Cirsium Mar 2025 #199

Do you ever talk to maga's? Omnipresent Mar 2025 #200

Yes Cirsium Mar 2025 #210

Hope you don't mind if I steal this. mcar Mar 2025 #174

It is 100% how they win Bettie Mar 2025 #45

Capitulation and keeping our powder dry has been the true disaster. Sky Jewels Mar 2025 #96

Indeed ck4829 Mar 2025 #201

maybe during normal times Cirsium Mar 2025 #143

Yup! usedtobedemgurl Mar 2025 #11

Your position is irrational stoned Mar 2025 #20

Lol Orrex Mar 2025 #22

My favourite graffiti regarding this GoneOffShore Mar 2025 #28

Seen on FB: CrispyQ Mar 2025 #66

I use that as well. GoneOffShore Mar 2025 #95

Your position is irrational. usedtobedemgurl Mar 2025 #100

lol Cirsium Mar 2025 #147

I agree stoned Mar 2025 #160

What is the center? Cirsium Mar 2025 #161

Moderates who could swing either way stoned Mar 2025 #208

The center? What are you talking about? mcar Mar 2025 #175

The Democrats are a minority party now. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #54

Yeah, phooey on that noise Orrex Mar 2025 #89

It could be very difficult to try and win their votes... kentuck Mar 2025 #94

If you have to persuade them not to vote for an undisguised fascist... Orrex Mar 2025 #109

They want to kill us Cirsium Mar 2025 #150

This is just a suicide take. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #110

Even now, they find his program cutting very appealing... kentuck Mar 2025 #114

Democrats should run on making the government more efficient as well as less corrupt. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #163

Nonsense Cirsium Mar 2025 #152

That wasn't the argument I was responding to. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #165

Well, I'll reconsider my position after every last Trump voter has fucked themselves forever Orrex Mar 2025 #170

Cool. Then don't be surprised when Democrats keep losing. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #188

And, predictably, you fall back on gaslighting Orrex Mar 2025 #192

Oh, I see Cirsium Mar 2025 #171

I don't know. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #189

Thanks Cirsium Mar 2025 #198

Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong.... Dan Mar 2025 #184

You can do all those things and still try to figure out why Democrats lost support over the last four years. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #190

"Moreover, Harris lost Hispanic men by 10 points." LuvLoogie Mar 2025 #209

Your link does not disprove mine. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #212

You stated Harris lost Latino men by 10 points LuvLoogie Mar 2025 #220

I didn't make a random assertion. I went off exit polls. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #221

I disagree... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #122

This! mcar Mar 2025 #177

Thank you. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #180

No Cirsium Mar 2025 #149

Ummmmm.... how may Magats are out there protesting and showing their support for F47? in2herbs Mar 2025 #166

So tell me, mcar Mar 2025 #176

So tell me... Self Esteem Mar 2025 #191

Some men Dan Mar 2025 #196

So, why did this demographic vote for Hillary overwhelmingly in 2016? Self Esteem Mar 2025 #213

It is something that I thought about and Dan Mar 2025 #217

I think the issue is far more complex than just saying, "racism" or "sexism"... Self Esteem Mar 2025 #218

Maybe, throw in economics. Dan Mar 2025 #219

You did see that I said racism AND sexism, right? mcar Mar 2025 #205

My bad! Self Esteem Mar 2025 #214

That's cute mcar Mar 2025 #215

Yup. No real rebuttal. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #216

No! No getting back with the wife beating husband. Blue Full Moon Mar 2025 #80

If they didn't vote in the last election... kentuck Mar 2025 #82

Good luck in your calls for appeasement, Neville Orrex Mar 2025 #91

Couldn't agree more. FoxNewsSucks Mar 2025 #179

If we want to beat Trump and the MAGA cabal... Initech Mar 2025 #186

Why are you slamming our brand. They need to woken up, period. Blues Heron Mar 2025 #4

the hate is all coming from their side cadoman Mar 2025 #119

There seems to be Magilla Mar 2025 #131

We are going to smash them Blues Heron Mar 2025 #137

Enough Cirsium Mar 2025 #153

. MorbidButterflyTat Mar 2025 #130

You can't reason with a cult NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #5

trumpers and maggot are not my fellow americans samnsara Mar 2025 #6

Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #7

Thank you, Mr. Chatbot AI sop Mar 2025 #8

LOL 😆 Emile Mar 2025 #10

Openly admitting he was republican. Not that Emile Mar 2025 #13

It was doing okay until the last two sentences. Hugin Mar 2025 #14

Not even remotely interested in reuniting with Trump supporters and Republicans. Autumn Mar 2025 #9

They voted for the Musk/Trump policies. They just thought THEY would be exempt from LoisB Mar 2025 #12

That's worked well before atreides1 Mar 2025 #15

"Therefore, we must seek compromise with Trump supporters" -- what do you think that looks like? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2025 #16

Only compromise w/MAGA is that those that are not affluent and old, ill and racially or sexually straight and white die PufPuf23 Mar 2025 #185

Been reexamining Dr. Steven Hassan's work EverHopeful Mar 2025 #17

We can't win hating our fellow democrats SocialDemocrat61 Mar 2025 #18

This has been my position forever stoned Mar 2025 #19

History has proven that Pollyanna silliness untenable many times over Orrex Mar 2025 #29

I agree about Obama sleeping kansasobama Mar 2025 #41

I am startled byHarris's silence. Hope22 Mar 2025 #106

Where do you want Harris, Biden, and Obama to be? MorbidButterflyTat Mar 2025 #135

Why the OP is wrong 303squadron Mar 2025 #21

I remember when being pro-Russia would lead to something worse than shunning. sop Mar 2025 #58

Intolerance is a breach of the social contract misanthrope Mar 2025 #121

I don't even think that I can forgive them for not believing what he told all of us he would do!!! Hope22 Mar 2025 #23

No RJ-MacReady Mar 2025 #26

Wishing away a confrontation is a pipe dream kansasobama Mar 2025 #42

I suspect you're right, kentuck, but I'm not there yet. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #27

I'll never forgive the Trump voters. zanana1 Mar 2025 #30

Trump and Musk are sadistic evil and deserve every hatred dalton99a Mar 2025 #31

We are not a brand, we are a political party delisen Mar 2025 #32

They absolutely did vote for all of it AverageJoe Mar 2025 #34

Pox News is the GQP Holy Grail The Wizard Mar 2025 #35

No. (nt) Paladin Mar 2025 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Rendville Mar 2025 #37

Speak for yourself, Rendville. (nt) Paladin Mar 2025 #61

You haven't read much of this thread, then, if you believe that. nt yagotme Mar 2025 #83

We haven't tried yet. Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #38

When they go low, kick them in the nuts EnergizedLib Mar 2025 #203

The myelin coating around brain cells expose the habits cachukis Mar 2025 #39

Saving America more important than insane fellow Americans kansasobama Mar 2025 #40

They just defunded the guys tracking Ukrainian children kidnapped by Putin. Swede Mar 2025 #43

I don't hate the suckers. I hate the masterminds blubunyip Mar 2025 #44

We have to make these people realize kacekwl Mar 2025 #46

What if we looked at it from a purely political perspective? kentuck Mar 2025 #50

I believe your question was answered many times over. bluestarone Mar 2025 #72

Do you think we have enough firepower to win the next election? kentuck Mar 2025 #73

Answer to your first question is Hell yes i believe we can win! bluestarone Mar 2025 #75

Yes, we do disagree. kentuck Mar 2025 #77

There is absolutely nothing about the current GOP that I can embrace. walkingman Mar 2025 #87

You're assuming there will be fair elections to begin with. BlueKota Mar 2025 #169

You are assuming there will be fair future elections usedtobedemgurl Mar 2025 #108

You may be right about that. kentuck Mar 2025 #113

False choice Cirsium Mar 2025 #157

Sometimes you need to face reality Meowmee Mar 2025 #47

This all day every day. Especially about Covid. That gets lost. These people do not value life tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #65

Compromise my ass, we've tried & tried that & tried that. William769 Mar 2025 #48

Nonsense GusBob Mar 2025 #49

The people who voted Trump and likeminded in office are 100% the most responsible. The Grand Illuminist Mar 2025 #51

And unless we act to do something differently... kentuck Mar 2025 #52

Well we can try to be more racist Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #90

Fight for them Cirsium Mar 2025 #159

The sticking point is, they want to live in a shithole country, and I don't. Wingus Dingus Mar 2025 #53

I reserve my hate AnnaLee Mar 2025 #55

I agree except for notion of compromise. CoopersDad Mar 2025 #56

How about ignori g and setting aside the johnnyfins Mar 2025 #57

⬆️⬆️⬆️THIS⬆️⬆️⬆️ Think. Again. Mar 2025 #124

This is the way stoned Mar 2025 #138

I don't hate America or my fellow Americans. But I do demand more. ck4829 Mar 2025 #59

Uhm. No. I cannot compromise with racists. My life and my community's life and wellbeing depends on not compromising tulipsandroses Mar 2025 #60

Thank you Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #102

They won hating us! boston bean Mar 2025 #62

+1000. Paladin Mar 2025 #67

Hating and opposing are two different things. Ocelot II Mar 2025 #63

Well said. La Coliniere Mar 2025 #71

I think there is a lot of hatred on both sides... kentuck Mar 2025 #74

If we stop hating them will they stop hating us? Ocelot II Mar 2025 #85

Hate is no good for anyone. kentuck Mar 2025 #92

We need to unite the country via a common enemy. NH Ethylene Mar 2025 #68

In order to prevent political suicide.. kentuck Mar 2025 #69

We can go back to being civil when the_liberal_grandpa Mar 2025 #70

But they DID vote for all of this. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2025 #76

Saved me from having to type all that in! Bengus81 Mar 2025 #78

Yes and yes. kentuck Mar 2025 #79

When will our fellow Americans Keepthesoulalive Mar 2025 #81

They seem to be winning by doing that LS0999 Mar 2025 #86

1800 views / 85+ responses / 12 Recommends Prairie Gates Mar 2025 #88

You're suggesting the impossible. Their only cause is making Dear Leader president for life and I'm not Vinca Mar 2025 #93

They believe what the propagandists tell them to believe. kentuck Mar 2025 #98

Does this mean we should compromise with the propaganda? Ilikepurple Mar 2025 #187

Compromise on what exactly? Women's rights? LGBT rights? Civil rights? Mass deportations? The erasure of trans people? Solly Mack Mar 2025 #97

He will ignore your post just like mine. William769 Mar 2025 #117

I wasn't going to reply to the OP but the more I thought about the harm being caused to people the angrier I got. Solly Mack Mar 2025 #125

I'm right there with you. William769 Mar 2025 #129

How about compromise...? kentuck Mar 2025 #126

There is no compromise with hate. I'll believe the people here expressing anger, even with strong words like hate, Solly Mack Mar 2025 #134

Your posts on this thread have been spot on MorbidButterflyTat Mar 2025 #181

Thank you, MorbidButterflyTat. Solly Mack Mar 2025 #182

. MorbidButterflyTat Mar 2025 #193

Anyone who voted for this rat bastard Grim Chieftain Mar 2025 #99

fuk all that noise Nimble_Idea Mar 2025 #101

"They did not vote for what is happening right now." Rigpa108 Mar 2025 #104

Winning elections is a lot more abou advertising than it is about love/hate, right/wrong, white/black/or sweet/sour. Ping Tung Mar 2025 #105

I am sorry to see such pushback here, kentuck Easterncedar Mar 2025 #107

And to think we cannot offer even a little encouragement for those that are pissed off... kentuck Mar 2025 #111

Right Easterncedar Mar 2025 #123

The pissed off need to work on their blubunyip Mar 2025 #207

I don't hate fascists, I just don't have anything to do with them other then making life miserable for them. nt ImNotGod Mar 2025 #112

You go ahead. maxsolomon Mar 2025 #115

I am keeping my eye on these Republican "townhalls" where fear has taken over... kentuck Mar 2025 #116

You're quite the optimist. maxsolomon Mar 2025 #118

I think the opportunity is there... kentuck Mar 2025 #120

"Democratic victory" Cirsium Mar 2025 #144

Even if they are Nazis? Or... SnoopDog Mar 2025 #127

We can do all the kumbaya stuff after we rid the U.S. of fascism. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #128

I'm sorry... Skvngr Mar 2025 #132

We can't win by loving them either. RockRaven Mar 2025 #133

The only thing a bully understands is a beat down. Prairie_Seagull Mar 2025 #136

They hate us without half trying. Its this stuff The Third Doctor Mar 2025 #139

I agree with you. h2ebits Mar 2025 #140

You better open your fucking eyes Mysterian Mar 2025 #141

if it all started last night...maybe stillcool Mar 2025 #142

I do not agree with that. They hate us, and they won. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #146

"Quack." -- Iggo. Iggo Mar 2025 #148

I CANNOT find "common ground" with people who support FASCISM Skittles Mar 2025 #151

Why not? They did. /nt bucolic_frolic Mar 2025 #154

Well, they certainly won by hating US. B.See Mar 2025 #155

I just hate what they stand for FullySupportDems Mar 2025 #156

How does one "unite" with those who have no desire to unite with you? GoCubsGo Mar 2025 #158

Reading through this entire thread, stoned Mar 2025 #162

I will stop hating Nazi MAGA cultists when they JoseBalow Mar 2025 #164

... orangecrush Mar 2025 #167

Sorry no can do. BlueKota Mar 2025 #168

Okay, I have a counter to that FullySupportDems Mar 2025 #172

I am a blue dot in a red neck area in a blue state BlueKota Mar 2025 #197

They voted for every bit of that mcar Mar 2025 #173

Well, you go ahead. You are more saintly than I can ever be. hamsterjill Mar 2025 #178

If you wanna sing kumbafuckingya with these people be my guest vercetti2021 Mar 2025 #183

Fuck that noise! EarthFirst Mar 2025 #194

I have no interest in unity EnergizedLib Mar 2025 #202

There's far too many people here that have become invested in the personalities of the Democratic Party biocube Mar 2025 #204

So true SocialDemocrat61 Mar 2025 #211

Not this shit again. Voltaire2 Mar 2025 #206