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(2,248 posts)As I suspect had Biden stayed in the race, he would have lost by a lot bigger margin than Harris did.
The reality: these demographics shifted in 2020 too. It just wasn't enough to flip the election. Biden underperformed Hillary in Texas border counties by a sizable margin. These counties are largely Hispanic majority and Democratic strongholds. But Biden did, in some instances, like nearly 40 points worse than Hillary, like in Zapata County, Texas, which is 94% Hispanic. Hillary won this county 66-33 over Trump in 2016 and Trump actually won it 52-47 over Biden in 2020. In 2024, Trump won it 61-39.
So, it went from +33 for Democrats in 2016 to -5 in 2020 and finally -22 in 2024.
In eight years, Democrats have lost 55 points in the margins in this county.
In 2012, Obama carried this county with 71% of the vote.
A county that is 94% Hispanic - and Democrats went from winning it with 71% in 2012 to losing it by 22 points in 2024.
That's problematic. If Biden had equaled Hillary's success in Hispanic-dominant counties in 2020, he would have carried Texas.
In reality, that was our first indicator that maybe something was shifting. But we could ignore it because Biden won.
So, why did Trump go from losing this county by 33 points in 2016 - to losing it by only 5 points in 2020, to winning it by 22 points in 2024?
What the hell happened there?
I see this as a microcosm of the party's bigger issue: they have lost the faith of those who supported the party the most staunchly.
They gotta figure out a way to win it back. I don't think calling a county that Obama won by 43 points in 2012 and Hillary won by 33 points in 2016 racist or sexist. That to me is not a winning message.
But there's something going on there and Democrats better figure it out because I think it's starting to creep into other areas and a is a big reason Democrats lost.
Had Harris won the Hispanic and Black vote at the margins Hillary did in 2016, she'd be president right now.
And that's not to blame those groups - it's to put it out there that we've got to figure out WHY they're drifting toward Trump. Because the party isn't viable enough with white voters to win again if they keep losing support among Blacks and Hispanics.