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ProSense

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Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:58 PM Dec 2012

President Obama, Democrats need to disavow the rumored offer. [View all]

They know and have acknowledged that Social Security does not add to the deficit.

White House: Social Security should be off limits in "fiscal cliff" talks

It appears another issue of disagreement has surfaced in regard to the negotiations over the so-called "fiscal cliff".

White House spokesman Jay Carney said Monday that Social Security is one entitlement program that should be addressed on a "separate track."

"We should address the drivers of the deficit and Social Security currently is not a driver of the deficit," Carney told reporters today. The senior retirement program is solvent for another 21 years, at which time recipients could see a reduction in benefits.

It's a similar position taken by Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill, the number two Democrat in the Senate, on Sunday. "Social Security does not add one penny to our debt -- not a penny. It's a separate funded operation, and we can do things that I believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives it solvency," Durbin said on ABC's "This Week."

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57554437-10391739/white-house-social-security-should-be-off-limits-in-fiscal-cliff-talks/

Why on earth would the President or any Democrat drag Social Security into the deficit negotiations?

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Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #1
"More" phony tears? jberryhill Dec 2012 #2
Go away! teddy51 Dec 2012 #4
Tell me about Obama's "phony tears" jberryhill Dec 2012 #8
i think you will go away. spanone Dec 2012 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #62
Don't mind him, he seems to be trying to commit suicide by Jury tonight Scootaloo Dec 2012 #76
Looks like he succeeded...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #79
WTF? nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #3
So your ok with having Social Security cut because he can't stand up to those on the other teddy51 Dec 2012 #5
You're okay with going with RUMORS about Social Security Cuts and Cha Dec 2012 #18
"rumors" being reported by the washington post, among other reputable sources. but they're HiPointDem Dec 2012 #24
As I said.. "Smearing the President with "more phony tears" Cha Dec 2012 #37
if you're concerned about rumors take it up with the wapo, etc. ezra klein, paul krugman also HiPointDem Dec 2012 #50
I'm concerned about someone posting "more phony tears".. The corporate Cha Dec 2012 #52
Michelle AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #66
PBO's the real deal alright.. and I Cha Dec 2012 #67
For me...I will withhold judgment til the fat lady sings! sheshe2 Dec 2012 #56
Yeah, I've learned after Cha Dec 2012 #57
Aaah...You are so right! sheshe2 Dec 2012 #59
Interesting about the "phony tears" smear CakeGrrl Dec 2012 #70
Yeah, the rwingers would say that.. Cha Dec 2012 #73
Teddy whatsup man? AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #69
'Fire him'- a Clint Eastwood quote? 'Phony tears' - an Alex Jones quote? freshwest Dec 2012 #72
I feel the same way. How can the same man who can shed tears over children then forestpath Dec 2012 #9
The shooting deaths of 6-year-olds vs. 5% monthly cuts for retirees BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #13
He is hurting vulnerable people who have little. No wonder you can't defend him. forestpath Dec 2012 #17
5% cuts for *all* social programs that have colas, + regressive tax increases on the lower & HiPointDem Dec 2012 #29
Stop with this insane equivalency BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #31
more people will die from benefit cuts than died in the shooting in connecticut. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #34
More six-year-olds will die? BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #38
do you know how many people on social security support or contribute to support of children & HiPointDem Dec 2012 #41
Yes BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #53
if people don't have income, they die. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #55
Yes, one in six American children go to bed hungry every night. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #68
He gained a lot of political capital with the speech last night Doctor_J Dec 2012 #28
not with me. i don't give points for words. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #30
Exactly. forestpath Dec 2012 #36
If only he'd been so passionate over the Public Option leftstreet Dec 2012 #61
What are you talking about? "More phony tears"? Cha Dec 2012 #11
Do you smell something... odd? jberryhill Dec 2012 #19
I was hoping this was Cha Dec 2012 #22
Missed me so much you shed "phony tears" I bet jberryhill Dec 2012 #26
We've all shed so many tears over the last few days.. Cha Dec 2012 #40
Some of us are... jberryhill Dec 2012 #81
Thanks for Cha Dec 2012 #84
Update: Oh, I see Cha Dec 2012 #27
Yeah jberryhill Dec 2012 #33
Don't make me post the Infowars link. That's the most common search results. freshwest Dec 2012 #78
Further update: He lost his privileges to post anymore on this board...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #83
Fuck you BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #14
And right back at ya... teddy51 Dec 2012 #15
Freeper bullshit BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #21
When the hysteria gets going ..it Cha Dec 2012 #20
he reportedly negotiated, made the offer himself. why would he disavow it? HiPointDem Dec 2012 #6
Exactly. Why would he back away from his own offer? Doctor_J Dec 2012 #35
Austerity Now! Austerity Forever! blkmusclmachine Dec 2012 #7
I guess "shared sacrifice" really means DJ13 Dec 2012 #10
Key phrase being "rumored"...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #12
+1 treestar Dec 2012 #16
so far the rumor is being reported by the wa po, la times, reuters, marketwatch, HiPointDem Dec 2012 #39
Let us know when it get to wsws, Hannah...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #42
i'll ignore you hereafter. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #44
I won't ignore you... SidDithers Dec 2012 #46
Ask him that by phone, fax or email, ASAP! n/t eridani Dec 2012 #23
I thought he was done negotiating with himself? Blaukraut Dec 2012 #25
Because he's not really a Dem Doctor_J Dec 2012 #32
in coming former-republican Dec 2012 #48
Please, cut the bullshit ProSense Dec 2012 #49
The president said last week that he's actually a Repuke Doctor_J Dec 2012 #77
Bingo! He is a DINO. Can't believe people are actually defending this! In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #65
No kidding. jsr Dec 2012 #43
Why? Jack Sprat Dec 2012 #45
No, No No, John2 Dec 2012 #47
If he tried to disavow all the rumors floating around, he'd never get anything else done Hekate Dec 2012 #51
Good post... SidDithers Dec 2012 #54
True, but ProSense Dec 2012 #58
The media is all over this. So I think its true LeftInTX Dec 2012 #71
Yes it should be off limits. And why should Democrats feel obligated to match long overdue revenue Overseas Dec 2012 #60
That trial balloon looked like a Lead Balloon. Either off the cliff or the repukes GIVE!!! on point Dec 2012 #63
Is this the chained CPI thing? Union Scribe Dec 2012 #64
Thank you. aandegoons Dec 2012 #74
So how the ownership of that bridge in Brooklyn whistler162 Dec 2012 #75
Agree. Stand up to the Reeps. Make them own this debacle! ananda Dec 2012 #80
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