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rebecca_herman

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78. Video games aren't the problem

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:27 AM

Dec 2012

I had an older brother so I played some of his violent computer games at only around 8-10 years old, they were probably rated Mature. My parents apparently thought it was ok because the game I played the most involved killing Nazis. I believe it was one of the Wolfenstein games. Nazis = bad, so violent game based on killing them = good I guess? /shrug In any case, I am one of the least violent people in existence (unless there's a spider in my house) and would probably accidentally shoot myself in the foot if I had a gun. For someone who is ALREADY violent and disturbed perhaps video games can make it worse (along with a multitude of other things that could also probably make it worse) but they are not going to turn a non disturbed person into a mass murderer.

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Video games are evil [View all] nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 OP

Those are today's talking points, alright! backscatter712 Dec 2012 #1

To the credit of Frank Luntz nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #3

Am I the only one who suspects a bit of zealotry-trolling going on here? backscatter712 Dec 2012 #12

Well some of us played violent games nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #15

Well then some of you are hypocrites and can't accept that basic fact. And need to lie KittyWampus Dec 2012 #111

Geez, go smoke some weed or something. You've really gone unhinged. n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #112

What you are saying is smoke and mirrors. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #114

Who is the zealot? The OP who is lying about what others are saying? Those who try to dictate the KittyWampus Dec 2012 #110

No I am not lying, nice personal attack nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #119

I dont know, Im hearing it from some liberals too... mr_liberal Dec 2012 #14

One is the foundation of any democracy the other a relic. white_wolf Dec 2012 #25

Well, he will have a lot of us staying home then nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #26

Study: No Link Between Violent Video Games, Youth Aggression ... Confusious Dec 2012 #2

Most of what I've dug up from the academic journals says the same thing. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #22

Guns are evil... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #4

Going after the fringe culture is the easy answer nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #7

BINGO! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #5

Shoots 6 bullets per second. Ridiculous & unnecessary. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #6

It is an stripped down (in the selector switch) nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #9

And that ammo is less powerful than what is used to hunt deer. justanidea Dec 2012 #16

Well, it sucks to hunt deer. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #18

And people nt theKed Dec 2012 #37

To say nothing of kindergardners. n/t 99Forever Dec 2012 #103

It's overkill for varmint hunting, but not powerful enough for deer... backscatter712 Dec 2012 #113

It actually followed the German model of smaller rounds nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #118

Very true. n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #121

5.56mm ammo is derived from a civilian round, the .222 Remington hack89 Dec 2012 #150

Absolutely no need for those to be in civilian hands. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #20

I thought he used 30 round magazines RomneyLies Dec 2012 #8

Nope, big Eddie just showed it nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #11

The Police have repeatedly indicated multiple 30-round magazines were used. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #29

Send an EMail to MSNBC nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #31

90-round clips...My God BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #127

No it was those damned Beatles, it is the devils music! Kurska Dec 2012 #10

It was comics before that! nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #13

And D&D after. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #19

Don't forget Battltech and Vampire the Masquerade. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #23

I've always wanted to try Vampire the Masquerade white_wolf Dec 2012 #27

I played a game of werewolf early on nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #32

Kinda ironic considering your name Hayabusa Dec 2012 #38

The name actually comes from a different videogame. white_wolf Dec 2012 #40

I thought it may have been something like that Hayabusa Dec 2012 #43

Go buy it now! The first one is like 10$ on Steam. white_wolf Dec 2012 #44

You haven't seen the way I save... Hayabusa Dec 2012 #46

"Bewitched" and "I Dream of Jeannie" also... klook Dec 2012 #102

I've been playing D&D on and off for a couple of decades... backscatter712 Dec 2012 #30

Want to hear something very ironic. white_wolf Dec 2012 #39

I want to learn the Mind Bondage spell! n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #75

And heavy metal music WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #104

With new technology, you can't detect the backwards satanic messages jberryhill Dec 2012 #52

Blame it on the Stones! DBoon Dec 2012 #64

I blame the metric system Johonny Dec 2012 #17

Damn, better hide my mom's old car...computer is set in metric right now. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #21

No matter how evil video games are, that would have mattered a whole lot less without a 90 round patrice Dec 2012 #24

That is true. Unless he made a bomb, like McVeigh did. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #60

But he didn't make a bomb, like McVeigh did. 99Forever Dec 2012 #105

Don't forget about his meds too Politicalboi Dec 2012 #28

A perfectly predictable result of taking God out of video games n/t Fumesucker Dec 2012 #33

God just makes videogames worse. white_wolf Dec 2012 #41

You have a point there DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #82

It's all Mario's fault! No, wait! It's all Luigi's fault! Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #34

No it's Link and Zelda's fault! white_wolf Dec 2012 #42

BOTH magazines and VIOLENT video games should be looked at and considered. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #35

The scientists have looked at video games and violence. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #45

All the studies I found....all of them...found a link...a predictor of future violent behavior in Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #48

Others have posted studies that contradicted yours. white_wolf Dec 2012 #50

That's what I mean. It should be studied and looked at, since many studies have concluded Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #57

Mortal Kombat is...once again...rated M nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #51

Anyone can play it, with parents permission, another poster said. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #54

Of course they can and they should be able to. white_wolf Dec 2012 #55

Oh, come on. You know that a lot of parents don't have a clue what kind of video game their Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #62

So you expect the industry rep to go the the home. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #69

Then they should do some research. It isn't hard. white_wolf Dec 2012 #74

The game makers put a standard label on the box explaining what's in that video game jeff47 Dec 2012 #133

A kid can't buy it nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #58

Okay, you're getting into silliness. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #68

I suppose that could happen... white_wolf Dec 2012 #76

I am not getting into silliness nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #80

I don't get the virulent objection you're being met with. Union Scribe Dec 2012 #71

+1 same thought here lunasun Dec 2012 #101

Video games aren't the problem rebecca_herman Dec 2012 #78

Wolfestein 3D nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #81

Yep, that's it! rebecca_herman Dec 2012 #90

They are nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #91

+1 whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #142

Oh I forgot to note nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #146

It's a toxic combination that goes bad with certain individuals. dkf Dec 2012 #36

Show me the case where someone killed 20 people rapidly with a copy of Halo 4, and maybe you'll have Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #87

You got that right Shadowflash Dec 2012 #153

Yep. We should burn them all right along with every copy of The Catcher in the Rye. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #47

Nearly every piece of classic literature. white_wolf Dec 2012 #49

Exactly. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #56

I missed those studies showing a link between violent behavior and Beowulf. Where are Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #70

Because we all know the society of Beowulf was paradise nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #123

Once again, you do not know what you are talking about. zappaman Dec 2012 #124

You really think the minimum-wage-earning kid taking tickets is gonna stop a parent who demands jeff47 Dec 2012 #135

Theater, all of Shakespeare nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #53

I'm pretty sure that's when society began to devolve. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #59

Has to be nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #65

Oh we need to ban oedipus Rex. white_wolf Dec 2012 #61

Yup nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #63

and Ezekiel! backscatter712 Dec 2012 #79

You made me use the Google nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #84

I just Googled it. white_wolf Dec 2012 #86

Yup. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #89

Hamlet is just riddled with bad influences theKed Dec 2012 #66

Okay, now you're getting silly. Is there a Shakespeare Mortal Kombat video game? Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #72

Whoosh!!!! nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #83

oh Livluvgrow Dec 2012 #67

"If it bleeds it leads" LeftofU Dec 2012 #73

Have you ever heard of not putting the cart before the horse? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #88

We need to speak of a number of things Nadin. Yes guns and clips for sure, but also other things. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #77

Well before this you are talking mental health nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #85

We as a society are horrible at taking care of the mentally ill. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #94

Because mine craft has zero guns (ok the laser mining laser could be seen as one) nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #95

VERY few DU'ers have even mentioned banning video games. Your entire thread is bullshit. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #109

I love personal attacks in the morning instead of facts. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #115

It's funny that people seem to think violence didn't happen before video games or movies or comics Kalidurga Dec 2012 #92

I know. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #93

Remember Johonny Dec 2012 #96

It was those damned Sumerians! n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #97

Well they were one of the first civilizations to have an urban center... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #107

First thing written after the Code was a lurid and violent tale of the forbidden Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #131

I didn't know that... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #132

Do you think society would be better off with LESS glorified violence instead of MORE? randome Dec 2012 #98

It wouldn't make a difference. jeff47 Dec 2012 #137

I didn't say it MAKES society. randome Dec 2012 #140

Your theory runs into a large problem jeff47 Dec 2012 #143

What call to arms? randome Dec 2012 #144

Why did I know you'd only respond to the last 3 words of my post? jeff47 Dec 2012 #148

Not 'creating'. Having an effect. randome Dec 2012 #149

The guy in Colorado didn't play games nor read the comic books. jeff47 Dec 2012 #151

That's...almost funny. 'Time for introspection' is the same as 'demanding it'. randome Dec 2012 #154

When you say "it's time for introspection" you are demanding "introspection". jeff47 Dec 2012 #155

What stinks is, we all know what they're doing. Dash87 Dec 2012 #99

And it is the same exact people. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #100

Nope, speak of them. MicaelS Dec 2012 #106

They are there nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #116

You need to re-read, and edit your post. MicaelS Dec 2012 #120

More word salad? zappaman Dec 2012 #122

Still don't understand what you mean by "white trade". n/t MicaelS Dec 2012 #125

Young women kidnapped and forced into the sex trade nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #126

Anything but your personal turf, right? randome Dec 2012 #134

Never heard it expressed that way. MicaelS Dec 2012 #139

We all learn something nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #145

Agreed, thank you. n/t MicaelS Dec 2012 #147

Media reflects society, it doesn't create society. jeff47 Dec 2012 #141

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #108

I love personal attacks. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #117

No, you don't. You just love to feel superior. randome Dec 2012 #138

! zappaman Dec 2012 #152

Aaaaaand... Jack Thompson slithers out of his hiding place to accuse the game industry of murder... backscatter712 Dec 2012 #128

Ah yes...grand theft auto, NPR interview nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #129

I'm stockpiling now as we speak... HipChick Dec 2012 #130

I got an old ps-2. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #136