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JackRiddler

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54. One could see it so, but it wouldn't be the case.

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:27 PM

Dec 2012

The proposals that were given to Boehner with chained CPI were all too real. Luckily his intent (or his perceived necessity for staying on top of his lunatic party) has always been to negotiate in bad faith. Thus the bad D proposals (capitulating to cuts on SS etc. and giving way on taxes on the 250-400K set) are being rejected even as we speak! Thus, thanks to the R's being insane, we should go over the fiscal bump. The phony hysteria on the market and in the corporate media should evaporate by mid-January, and next year gives a slightly better chance of a good deal. (8 seats better in House, possible end to preemptive filibusters in Senate.) Or the Rs drag it out for many more months, damaging themselves above all. It's essential that the current offer not be accepted. (Golly, hope Boehner ain't reading this!) ;0

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2014 is the year we lose the Senate and give the House a bigger Repuke majority than in 2010 [View all] eridani Dec 2012 OP

That is for sure. nt Walk away Dec 2012 #1

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aint you all sweet... trumad Dec 2012 #4

I won't be, but the occasional voters that I practically had to drag to ballot drop boxes will eridani Dec 2012 #5

I dragged a number of them also ... and I know they will say what difference did my RKP5637 Dec 2012 #8

Why do you suppose they have that mindset? 99Forever Dec 2012 #10

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #20

Really now? JackRiddler Dec 2012 #27

Politicians have absolutely no responsibility for people being disenchanted with politics Fumesucker Dec 2012 #39

Then you've no stomach for politics. Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #25

Do you think contempt is the best way to approach the undecided? JackRiddler Dec 2012 #28

I offered a graphic illustration Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #44

No, I see you're coming from a different direction than it seemed to me. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #46

I want the democratic party back that I grew up with!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #3

This will be the Pukes' #1 campaign theme : "Obama took your Social Security away!!1!" bullwinkle428 Dec 2012 #6

Yep--worked just fine on Medicare in 2010 eridani Dec 2012 #7

Yep, and they will hammer that message over and over again until right or wrong, it will RKP5637 Dec 2012 #14

That is the GOP formula. Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #24

So Republicans will bullshit like they always do, NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #29

If true, then President Obama is stupid or heartless or both. Dawgs Dec 2012 #9

I often think his advisers are not the sharpest tools in the tool shed. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #11

They'e not dumb. They're just not working for us n/t eridani Dec 2012 #13

Excellent point!!! RKP5637 Dec 2012 #15

Nailed. it. Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #26

Why are trying to take the blame off of the person we actually elected? He's responsible. n/t Dawgs Dec 2012 #16

Yep, that is the bottom line. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #22

Not really. Repukes would just like to execute every senior with an income below $20/year eridani Dec 2012 #12

Backwards. Republics want to end minimum wage. It is upward mobility that they oppose. ieoeja Dec 2012 #32

Of course, traditionally the party in white house loses seats in the house and senate WI_DEM Dec 2012 #17

Big difference between losing a few seats and getting completely creamed eridani Dec 2012 #18

and the talk about RegieRocker Dec 2012 #19

Wrong! Glitterati Dec 2012 #21

How about we all join in for a verse of Duane Eddy's "Yep!" rock Dec 2012 #23

True. yardwork Dec 2012 #30

If they aren't for preserving Social Security, duffyduff Dec 2012 #31

Hogwash RussBLib Dec 2012 #33

'continue to cave on social security' oh really? any links on that? spanone Dec 2012 #34

link bigtree Dec 2012 #35

he's caving on cola. i better stock up on catfood. eom ellenfl Dec 2012 #36

Catfood tastes horrid without cola to wash it down DJ13 Dec 2012 #53

I agree. Puglover Dec 2012 #37

I was a $100/month donor to the DNC. I donated thousands to Obama. I am a centrist/moderate. ieoeja Dec 2012 #38

I'll believe it when I see it, so far all I've seen is arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #40

Maybe the Republicans will save things... JackRiddler Dec 2012 #48

One could also see it as the Dem's saving things... arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #49

One could see it so, but it wouldn't be the case. JackRiddler Dec 2012 #54

That being the case I too hope the offer is arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #56

The Democrats know as long as we have only them and the Republicans to choose from WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #41

I won't see any need to go to the polls RomneyLies Dec 2012 #42

K&R I'm down with a prediction of a veto-proof majority. Then nothing will be his fault. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #43

Yippee! Then nothing can be blamed on the Democrats!! leftstreet Dec 2012 #45

Oh good lord. The fact-challenged media states something to be true and.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #47

Just like 2010 all over again we can do it Dec 2012 #50

I agree the Republicans will hang the cuts in SS on Democrats. A quote I have heard every day the doc03 Dec 2012 #51

Yeah, 'cause that worked so well in 2010.. Stamp your Cha Dec 2012 #52

Bullshit. Rosco T. Dec 2012 #55