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Jilly_in_VA

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Tue Apr 22, 2025, 04:01 PM Apr 2025

Gavin Newsom says Democrats need to stop looking for a savior on a 'white horse' [View all]

Gov. Gavin Newsom, widely viewed as a potential contender for the 2028 Democratic presidential nomination, had tough words for his own party — "We are as dumb as we want to be," he said — in an exclusive interview Monday with NBC News in this Marin County suburb north of San Francisco.

Democrats have been too focused on the personality of candidates at the top of the ticket, rather than building a platform that is bigger than the nominee and addresses how the party will fight for what voters want, he said.

"We just have to move beyond the guy or gal on the white horse that's going to come save the day — it's exhausting," the second-term chief executive of the nation's most-populous state said. "This party needs to rebuild itself from the bottom up, not top down. We are as dumb as we want to be."

In his nascent quest to help revitalize the Democratic Party, Newsom has been criticized by some progressives for hosting a pair of high-profile allies of President Donald Trump — Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk — on his new podcast, "This is Gavin Newsom." (The writer of this article sat for an interview on the podcast this week.)

In his talk with Kirk, Newsom further infuriated some allies in the LGBTQ community and on the left by announcing that he opposes trans athletes competing in women's and girls' sports. In the 2024 election, Trump weaponized trans issues, including Kamala Harris' past support for taxpayer-funded gender-affirming treatments.

Newsom said he has been surprised by the ferocity of the backlash against his interviews with MAGA figures, but he appears to be committed to learning from Trump's victories in two of the last three presidential elections. He was particularly struck by Trump's advantage with young men, which he attributed to the attention the current president paid to them — which was demonstrated in part by appearing on podcasts and YouTube shows popular with that cohort.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/gavin-newsom-democrats-need-stop-looking-savior-white-horse-rcna202316

Well, buddy, I do not think it's gonna be you. You done shat the bed.

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Sounding this desperate three years before the primaries is not a good sign for Newsom. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2025 #1
A liberal from california has no chance Henry203 Apr 2025 #2
They said the same with a conservative from California. Xolodno Apr 2025 #12
A liberal from a conservative state Henry203 Apr 2025 #14
And we are not in the primaries yet either. Xolodno Apr 2025 #18
That's not on us. That's on Newsom. He decided to start campaigning 3 years early while Rome burns. nt Blasphemer Apr 2025 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Apr 2025 #50
We also got Trump47 as a result Orrex Apr 2025 #113
I miss Jerry Brown. LuvLoogie Apr 2025 #3
You and me both!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2025 #28
Great guy whose career and prez ambitions were sunk by a witty columnist from Chicago... Hekate Apr 2025 #90
I don't think so n/t Jilly_in_VA Apr 2025 #100
Nonsense. MAGA is all a cult of personality newdeal2 Apr 2025 #4
Exactly. Plus, Dems have done very well with charismatic presidents (JFK, Clinton, Obama). Blasphemer Apr 2025 #42
He's attractive, but his negativity is getting tedious. nt allegorical oracle Apr 2025 #44
Yeah, it seems like a really odd slant to take... regnaD kciN Apr 2025 #65
Sure, a "savior on a white horse" isn't what Dems should look for, maxsolomon Apr 2025 #5
He is doing terrible in the early primary polls AZProgressive Apr 2025 #25
its 3 years before the primaries maxsolomon Apr 2025 #82
They don't care, and besides something wrong about her will be articulated as soon as she announces Hekate Apr 2025 #91
if it's Harris or AOC say hello to another 4 years of Dump or Vance BannonsLiver Apr 2025 #108
That would be Pete Buttigieg, NOT Newsom. nt Blasphemer Apr 2025 #43
Opinions vary. maxsolomon Apr 2025 #83
He has the charisma of a dried up booger synni Apr 2025 #64
I wish he;d just shut up. choie Apr 2025 #6
Yes, Newsom may just talk himself out of the nomination. He needs to think before he speaks. n/t elocs Apr 2025 #33
He sure isn't it. He's shown his stripes. Blue Full Moon Apr 2025 #7
I somewhat agree with him. everyonematters Apr 2025 #8
ours is GET RID OF FASCISM Skittles Apr 2025 #56
Democrats make up only 30% of the electorate. You have to convince the 40% who are not everyonematters Apr 2025 #70
you Skittles Apr 2025 #88
Yes I mean the Democrats. everyonematters Apr 2025 #92
What will Dems run on in 2028? Drain the swamp? Fire every MAGA in sight? bucolic_frolic Apr 2025 #9
I'm Not.. I'm a Dem. I'm Grateful for the All the Cha Apr 2025 #10
It doesn't need to be a white horse, but the candidate should be intelligent, empathetic, elocs Apr 2025 #11
You mean like Barack Obama or Joe Biden? Hekate Apr 2025 #22
If I had to pick between the 2 of them, I'd say Obama. elocs Apr 2025 #26
Well, the party did not screw up. Joe's son died horribly of a brain tumor & Joe was gutted.... Hekate Apr 2025 #32
Lincoln's 11 year old son died when he was in office and I'm sure he was gutted as well. elocs Apr 2025 #48
Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris both lost by one percentage point and Biden won by less than 1%. betsuni Apr 2025 #55
Having 0 rallies in WI is in no way the same as having a few more rallies for White People. elocs Apr 2025 #69
40 million Californians are taken for granted and somehow we manage to survive our hurt feelings Hekate Apr 2025 #75
Right! I'm from Washington State and wouldn't know a presidential rally if it bit me on the ass. betsuni Apr 2025 #89
When the sweet showers of April have pierced betsuni Apr 2025 #94
Too bad that because a kacekwl Apr 2025 #104
I'm terribly sorry Joe Biden was not superhuman enough for you Hekate Apr 2025 #76
Sitting VPs do not win. They have to build their own agenda and distancing themselves from the question everything Apr 2025 #51
It's much longer than that actually. MichMan Apr 2025 #102
Thanks. Well before my time question everything Apr 2025 #105
Well, it's not like I voted for him either MichMan Apr 2025 #106
I'll be banned if I respond malaise Apr 2025 #13
Same orangecrush Apr 2025 #58
Oh? What color is your horse, Mr. Newsom? 0rganism Apr 2025 #15
It wasn't racist BlueSpot Apr 2025 #37
Interesting. I never said it was racist. 0rganism Apr 2025 #62
Apologies if I misunderstood BlueSpot Apr 2025 #81
This discussion belongs to the primaries forum, which isn't up yet as its still too early. Xolodno Apr 2025 #16
Thanks Hekate Apr 2025 #19
Sorry, DUers, but waiting for the perfect savior & rejecting all others is chronic around here Hekate Apr 2025 #17
Might as well vote for someone that will make an attempt at universal health care AZProgressive Apr 2025 #27
For 8 years I hung out in the Obama Group because the hatred and mockery were unbearable Hekate Apr 2025 #34
I would rather have Obama AZProgressive Apr 2025 #38
Yet another Newsom hate thread? JoseBalow Apr 2025 #20
Well, to quote a long deceased celebrity... Xolodno Apr 2025 #23
That's my sig, but it is Will Rogers. But I watched Roy a lot as a kid. n/t elocs Apr 2025 #29
Brain fart. Xolodno Apr 2025 #35
Been there, done that, more than once. Roy Rodgers comes to mind easier because elocs Apr 2025 #46
It was Will Rogers dwayneb Apr 2025 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Apr 2025 #36
Emotion over thinking. betsuni Apr 2025 #68
I just want a suitable human equipped with a vertebral column. Maru Kitteh Apr 2025 #21
I think a lot of the replies here boil down to shooting the messenger. NT. anamnua Apr 2025 #24
'Kay, Gav. 'Kay. I'll take your words under advisement. dchill Apr 2025 #31
If Gov. Gavin Newsom is our nominee William769 Apr 2025 #39
No you won't. maxsolomon Apr 2025 #84
You do not know me very well. William769 Apr 2025 #110
Apparently you're a quitter. maxsolomon Apr 2025 #111
61 years on this earth as a Gay male. William769 Apr 2025 #112
The Presidential System in our political structure is a problem in itself. thought crime Apr 2025 #40
Then he should start a movement instead of starting primary season 3 years early. He doesn't care about Americans... Blasphemer Apr 2025 #45
Well, I'm certainly not looking at him as he parties AllyCat Apr 2025 #47
By 2028, after Trump has left the country in smoldering ruins, people probably won't be looking for a savior. LudwigPastorius Apr 2025 #49
Oh this is Brer Rabbit adjacent ... LSparkle Apr 2025 #52
I have already ruled him out and would not vote for him in a primary Meowmee Apr 2025 #53
And yet, Newsome is sounding like he wants to be the savior on the white horse. lees1975 Apr 2025 #54
I agree Skittles Apr 2025 #61
Newsom is correct aeromanKC Apr 2025 #57
he really thinks he can win support from the young male bigot Trump worshipers Skittles Apr 2025 #59
My TikTok feed back during the convention was lit up with lots Nixie Apr 2025 #60
Thank you. He is correct. betsuni Apr 2025 #66
We have fascists and Christian Nationalists running our government. SamKnause Apr 2025 #63
Don't ride the white horse....... Celerity Apr 2025 #67
Who said anyone is looking for a white horse? Patton French Apr 2025 #71
Yeah funny 😹 Meowmee Apr 2025 #97
Sorry, I don't think I meant that in the way you interpreted it. Patton French Apr 2025 #98
Perhaps I misunderstood 😁 Meowmee Apr 2025 #99
We need strong candidates both at the local AND national levels. DFW Apr 2025 #72
It's true that many on the left have to fall in love with their candidate but ecstatic Apr 2025 #73
Please keep shooting your mouth off in public, Newsom. Paladin Apr 2025 #74
I wish people would stop characterizing Democrats looking for coordination of our efforts as Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #77
I think we are just looking for the people we hired in government to do their jobs. travelingthrulife Apr 2025 #78
I think he is right. Waiting for a savior isn't a good strategy. Many Democratic lawmakers are doing a great job of Doodley Apr 2025 #79
He made a different comment that bothered me more than this one. Quiet Em Apr 2025 #80
What the hell happened to him? Sky Jewels Apr 2025 #85
I've taken him off my 2028 list. Vinca Apr 2025 #86
So few actual quotes MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #87
Same as Bernie Sanders said, has to be "A party which makes decisions from the bottom on up" and betsuni Apr 2025 #93
I don't find anything wrong here RJ-MacReady Apr 2025 #95
He's not completely wrong SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #96
Everyone seeming to turn on Newsom is nuts. Basso8vb Apr 2025 #101
It's 100 percent because he had the guts to say something more than 70 percent of Dems agree with. BannonsLiver Apr 2025 #109
It's certainly not kacekwl Apr 2025 #103
Listen to Newsom! Canada Kid Apr 2025 #107
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