If Obama cuts social security

[graham4anything]

56. How's that 3rd Party crap of Ralph Nader doing for you that led directly to W winning NH in 2000?

without Ralph Nader, the nation would not have gone bankrupt after 2001.
That same crap in 2000, awww, the parties are the same vote for Nader
well, how that turn out for you?
Without Ralph Nader, Gore and his lock box would have won
But then last time I looked, because of Ralph Nader, my placemat of the Presidents did not include either of Al Gore or John Kerry
All because of Ralph Nader

again, be my guest, go vote for Nader or the current lookalike in 2016 and all the repub/tea/liberts in 2014 so that you can say it's Obama's fault.

No, it was Ralph Nader's fault then, and would be again(whomever this years ugly face of losing would be in place of Nader).

BTW, a million people work on Wall Street, 9 to 5ers hard sweaters.

You mean those people(and the ones that work nationwide for those firms)...are you saying all of them should lose their job?

Seems to me rather Scrooge like this Christmas season to wish they had no company to work for.

I hate stereotyping, and blaming "Wall Street" means putting millions of people as one because perhaps you don't like 3 or 4 of them. Why not name the CEO you don't like, instead of naming a street of cobblestones and hard workers.

And why not blame 9-11 as that is the event that caused the bankruptcy of America.

and in circular fashion, 9-11, blame W and Cheney and those people. Because Wall Street had nothing to do with 9-11, but Ralph Nader directly caused it to happen with his meddling in a federal election in 2000 all because he had the biggest ego in the history of the world.

Oh, and tell me, how is Sonya & Elena Kagen the same as Alito and Roberts?
Had Ralph Nader not been in the 2000 race, Gore would have named two like the first two I said, and Alito and Roberts would still be working at their prior post.

I guess you don't realize that the 3 presidents better than Obama all compromised to get the best they could too?

Lincoln, well that is now legendary
FDR- you think he got 100%?
and LBJ- he had to have Republicans help him get all those hundreds of bills he passed, because the racists at that time were southern democrats who tried to stop him

and it took 100 years from Lincoln to LBJ to actually see any real change of the 13th
and it took another 50 years from LBJ to Obama

and now you want 100% done in a few seconds historically speaking???

It takes alot of work.

And has it dawned on you that by getting support on their side, it takes away issues that they could use in 2014 and 2016, being that they are supporting it?

It will continue to fracture their party, which has no voters to begin with and lead to continuation of Barack Obama's dream in 2016 and 2020 with Hillary.
(and the biggest liberal in the house, Nancy Pelosi just yesterday basically endorsed her for 2016).

We got the foundation in, we got the 2 floors, basement, and roof now in
but it takes alot of work to keep it from all falling back
Therefore, it takes reinforcement, and help to stand mighty

And I trust Obama 100% because yes, he sees things way ahead, with each step

and the prize at the end

BTW, we should all have a system like France. They don't have social security there at all.
Just they pay MORE TAXES while healthy and working, and in return they get MORE benefits
and a good retirement.
Social Security is nice, however, France's system is nicer. One actually lives pretty nice there after work, and as people worldwide are getting older, people are active alot longer too.

Put everything together, and well, you can whine and wish for 100% and you will get nothing
or keep working WITHIN to keep democrats elected in 2014

I think even if in ten years it was $100 more, well in ten years you yourself can save $120 a month to make up for what POSSIBLY will be that or not.

It's not as if he got rid of Social Security you know.

And he takes away a bargaining chip off the next issue and so forth.

And tell me, wihtout his health care plan of 4 years ago, we would still be at nothing at all.

Now we are on the cusp of even better, but it takes moving forward to be able to again move forward which we are. More and more red states are falling into the trap and before you know it, it will be what you whiners had wanted then but was impossible to get.

Imagine if they were starting at square one now. You would still be whining, and there would be zero chance of anything at all.

So make sure to vote against the Dems in 2014, so you can continue to whine, because when you get everything you want, you won't have anything left to whine about.

You do realize- it could be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much worse but that patch of blue up in the sky? It's only the clouds you see.

And that Redwood tree? Oh, it grew in 30 seconds after the seed was planted.
(speaking of the environment and climate control, Bush was so much better than Gore on that issue, wasn't he, thanks Ralph Nader).

(moral of story? I could have spent all this time whining about Ralph Nader...except that we in 2008 made sure never again to be fooled by egotist liars like him and their lies that both parties are the same). I am sure Rand and Ron Paul would have or will get you 100% of what you want. Yeah, sure.