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(50,700 posts)19. This is a false claim OP. Fake news.
Fact Check: Trumps birthright citizenship ban will not affect his children
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/trumps-birthright-citizenship-ban-will-not-affect-his-children-2024-12-19/
All five of President-elect Donald Trumps children fulfill two criteria for automatic U.S. citizenship - they were born to at least one U.S.-citizen parent and they were born in the United States - so they would not lose citizenship, as social media posts suggest, if Trump does away with so-called birthright citizenship, as he has promised to do.
Alongside pictures of four of Trumps five children - Barron, Don Jr., Ivanka and Eric - posts on social media say, opens new tab: Trumps plan to end birthright citizenship would mean 4 of his children wouldn't be considered U.S. citizens: Don Jr - born in 1977. Ivanka - born in 1981. Eric - born in 1984. Ivana - became a U.S. citizen in 1988. Barron - born in March 2006. Melania - became a U.S. citizen in July 2006.
Trump, who ran his presidential campaign on border reform and mass deportations, is expected to roll out his immigration agenda and deport record numbers of illegal immigrants when he takes office on Jan. 20.
The social media posts followed an interview on Dec. 8 with NBC News' Meet the Press with Kristen Welker, in which Trump said he would take executive action to end birthright citizenship, which grants citizenship to anyone born in the U.S. regardless of the status of their parents.
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Here is the actual EO:
PROTECTING THE MEANING AND VALUE OF AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP
The White House
January 20, 2025
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/
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Sec. 2. Policy. (a) It is the policy of the United States that no department or agency of the United States government shall issue documents recognizing United States citizenship, or accept documents issued by State, local, or other governments or authorities purporting to recognize United States citizenship, to persons: (1) when that persons mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the persons father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said persons birth, or (2) when that persons mothers presence in the United States was lawful but temporary, and the persons father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said persons birth.
(b) Subsection (a) of this section shall apply only to persons who are born within the United States after 30 days from the date of this order.
(c) Nothing in this order shall be construed to affect the entitlement of other individuals, including children of lawful permanent residents, to obtain documentation of their United States citizenship.
Sec. 3. Enforcement. (a) The Secretary of State, the Attorney General, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the Commissioner of Social Security shall take all appropriate measures to ensure that the regulations and policies of their respective departments and agencies are consistent with this order, and that no officers, employees, or agents of their respective departments and agencies act, or forbear from acting, in any manner inconsistent with this order.
(b) The heads of all executive departments and agencies shall issue public guidance within 30 days of the date of this order regarding this orders implementation with respect to their operations and activities.
Sec. 4. Definitions. As used in this order:
(a) Mother means the immediate female biological progenitor.
(b) Father means the immediate male biological progenitor.
Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
THE WHITE HOUSE,
January 20, 2025.
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/trumps-birthright-citizenship-ban-will-not-affect-his-children-2024-12-19/
All five of President-elect Donald Trumps children fulfill two criteria for automatic U.S. citizenship - they were born to at least one U.S.-citizen parent and they were born in the United States - so they would not lose citizenship, as social media posts suggest, if Trump does away with so-called birthright citizenship, as he has promised to do.
Alongside pictures of four of Trumps five children - Barron, Don Jr., Ivanka and Eric - posts on social media say, opens new tab: Trumps plan to end birthright citizenship would mean 4 of his children wouldn't be considered U.S. citizens: Don Jr - born in 1977. Ivanka - born in 1981. Eric - born in 1984. Ivana - became a U.S. citizen in 1988. Barron - born in March 2006. Melania - became a U.S. citizen in July 2006.
Trump, who ran his presidential campaign on border reform and mass deportations, is expected to roll out his immigration agenda and deport record numbers of illegal immigrants when he takes office on Jan. 20.
The social media posts followed an interview on Dec. 8 with NBC News' Meet the Press with Kristen Welker, in which Trump said he would take executive action to end birthright citizenship, which grants citizenship to anyone born in the U.S. regardless of the status of their parents.
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Here is the actual EO:
PROTECTING THE MEANING AND VALUE OF AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP
The White House
January 20, 2025
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/
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Sec. 2. Policy. (a) It is the policy of the United States that no department or agency of the United States government shall issue documents recognizing United States citizenship, or accept documents issued by State, local, or other governments or authorities purporting to recognize United States citizenship, to persons: (1) when that persons mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the persons father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said persons birth, or (2) when that persons mothers presence in the United States was lawful but temporary, and the persons father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said persons birth.
(b) Subsection (a) of this section shall apply only to persons who are born within the United States after 30 days from the date of this order.
(c) Nothing in this order shall be construed to affect the entitlement of other individuals, including children of lawful permanent residents, to obtain documentation of their United States citizenship.
Sec. 3. Enforcement. (a) The Secretary of State, the Attorney General, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the Commissioner of Social Security shall take all appropriate measures to ensure that the regulations and policies of their respective departments and agencies are consistent with this order, and that no officers, employees, or agents of their respective departments and agencies act, or forbear from acting, in any manner inconsistent with this order.
(b) The heads of all executive departments and agencies shall issue public guidance within 30 days of the date of this order regarding this orders implementation with respect to their operations and activities.
Sec. 4. Definitions. As used in this order:
(a) Mother means the immediate female biological progenitor.
(b) Father means the immediate male biological progenitor.
Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
THE WHITE HOUSE,
January 20, 2025.
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Wrong. See posts 17 and 19. OP should self-delete since jury members do not see posts 17 and 19. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 11
#25
Wrong. See posts 17 and 19. If you think you know, you are believing a lie. Barron is a citizen. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 11
#24
You are safe. The EO is not retroactive. See posts 17 and 19. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 11
#27
Wrong. The EO protects tRump because his father was a citizen and the EO is not retroactive. Same for Barron. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
May 11
#26
If you want to protect DU's reputation and honour, self-delete this lie.
Bernardo de La Paz
May 11
#23
Protect your own DU reputation and self-delete this post. If you do not know how to self-delete, ask.
Bernardo de La Paz
May 11
#29