Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

RoseTrellis

(46 posts)
13. Not quite accurate
Mon May 19, 2025, 11:54 AM
May 2025

The ship left the pier at 820 pm on the 17th. Not by coincidence, slack tide was at 811pm. I looked up the station information for this area on my chartplotter and at the time of the accident, Garmin shows very slight current at 0.19 knots - Current was pretty much not a factor in this incident.
What is pretty obvious from the videos is that the ship was operating in astern propulsion. For some reason, it was stuck in reverse. This can be determined by the significant wake you can see in the videos.
Please see Sal’s analysis.

?si=behoWRSSazb3YKyy]

Recommendations

7 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Great analysis. cachukis May 2025 #1
Thanks for your reply but there's something I learned after I posted PJMcK May 2025 #33
Sailed down from North Shore into East River in 70's. cachukis May 2025 #38
Thank you for the detailed description... 2naSalit May 2025 #2
That's super interesting stuff there Friend! Ligyron May 2025 #3
Thank you for this valuable information. Just looking at the image, I could niyad May 2025 #4
Bottom line is that the masts were simply too high to pass under the bridge. MineralMan May 2025 #5
It was supposed to head south IbogaProject May 2025 #12
Thanks for your reply, MM PJMcK May 2025 #26
Thanks for a knowledgeable, cogent analysis ms liberty May 2025 #6
Thanks for the analysis. I wondered why a ship that was obviously to tall for the bridge was going under it. patphil May 2025 #7
Thank you malaise May 2025 #8
Thanks for info, PJ. elleng May 2025 #9
The ship inexplicably lost power Ponietz May 2025 #10
The G.O.P. in charge of communications is proving itself incompetent beyond words BoRaGard May 2025 #18
Basic seamanship BeneteauBum May 2025 #11
Not quite accurate RoseTrellis May 2025 #13
Propulsion issue make sense. adnoid May 2025 #16
Thank you for this BumRushDaShow May 2025 #19
Interesting points PJMcK May 2025 #21
Navigation RoseTrellis May 2025 #43
A sextant! PJMcK May 2025 #47
Thanks for the very informative and interesting analysis. I've done a lot of sailing, so it meant a lot of sense to me. Martin68 May 2025 #14
The Pacific! PJMcK May 2025 #22
Thanks! The Pacific can be challenging, and requires a larger vessel in the huge rollers that distant storms generate. Martin68 May 2025 #48
One question is not answered in anything I read. did the ship send out an emergency signal once Wonder Why May 2025 #15
Good question PJMcK May 2025 #23
Yeah, that IS good question. calimary May 2025 #45
I remember when the Coast Guard training ship "Eagle" had a run-in with some inadvertently hung bridge safety netting. usonian May 2025 #17
I remember that episode PJMcK May 2025 #24
Thank you for this extremely educational post! colorado_ufo May 2025 #20
Your welcome! PJMcK May 2025 #25
A very clear explanation. Thanks. Norrrm May 2025 #27
You're welcome! PJMcK May 2025 #29
The East River is no joke to navigate. And this situation is so tragic. Scrivener7 May 2025 #28
I used to jog along the East River PJMcK May 2025 #30
We hit Hell Gate an hour later than planned once. Scrivener7 May 2025 #39
Mother Nature allows us to live on her planet. We follow her rules. nt Buns_of_Fire May 2025 #31
And if you don't listen to Mother... PJMcK May 2025 #35
Thanks for the information! viva la May 2025 #32
You are very kind with your response PJMcK May 2025 #34
I really appreciate your info viva la May 2025 #41
K&R spanone May 2025 #36
Having spent a few weeks crewing a much smaller tall ship over the years, Emrys May 2025 #37
Thank you for your rational and experiential explanation... Wounded Bear May 2025 #40
There is a yard at Sparrows Point , just east of Baltimore, that has . . . Stinky The Clown May 2025 #42
What I read last night was that the Rudder was Stuck electric_blue68 May 2025 #44
Thank you for your post. Have wondered about the technicalities of that tragic allegorical oracle May 2025 #46
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Regarding the Mexican shi...»Reply #13