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Jack Valentino

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33. He was already trying to claim "election fraud" before the 2016 election,

Mon Jun 2, 2025, 01:46 AM

Jun 2025

until he won which surprised everyone, especially himself--- so he then stopped talking about election fraud.

I agree with you, if Sec. Clinton had won in 2016, she probably would have lost in 2020 to Trump who would have run again...

No matter how good a job she had done, she probably would have lost---

Hell, we've seen by the economic numbers and legislative record how well Joe Biden actually did,
but too many couldn't see it--- and yeah, sexism against Hillary would have also played into it. That is true.

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What if We Had Elected Hillary Clinton? [View all] MineralMan Jun 2025 OP

Hillary would have been a great president. sop Jun 2025 #1

Would have been significant. Unfortunately, after you cut through the Comeys, email lies, etc., Clinton still would Silent Type Jun 2025 #2

Don't make me cry...... Bayard Jun 2025 #3

I go back even further. I think the real crossroads where the country changed was Gore/Bush. hamsterjill Jun 2025 #4

I am with you on this. And Gore did in reality win rurallib Jun 2025 #6

I agree. I didn't see how bad it was at the time or how far the rot and conspiracies had spread... Hekate Jun 2025 #28

Honestly, Hillary probably would have been a one-term president and we would have gotten Trump in 2020. Self Esteem Jun 2025 #5

Nope. MineralMan Jun 2025 #7

Nope what lmao Self Esteem Jun 2025 #11

do NOT compare Hillary to Biden Skittles Jun 2025 #13

I CAN AND I WILL Self Esteem Jun 2025 #17

she was "unpopular" mostly because of the relentless repuke campaign against her Skittles Jun 2025 #19

She was unpopular for many reasons. Self Esteem Jun 2025 #20

MOSTLY BECAUSE OF SEXISM Skittles Jun 2025 #21

But also other reasons. Self Esteem Jun 2025 #22

I am TOTALLY with you in this, Skittles. GOP decided 40 years ago to squash that uppity woman... Hekate Jun 2025 #29

The fact that she was the wife of Bill Clinton, WHO KICKED THEIR ASSES TWICE, Jack Valentino Jun 2025 #32

Popular senator, 69% approval as SoS, record number of times in a row voted the most admired woman. betsuni Jun 2025 #25

TY for all the facts. Amazing how well character assassination works. Amazing how Dems eat their own. Hekate Jun 2025 #30

OK. She still would have picked MineralMan Jun 2025 #14

She wouldn't have picked any justice to the Supreme Court. Self Esteem Jun 2025 #18

You think one Party is winning 4 times in a row? Polybius Jun 2025 #23

Probably not. MineralMan Jun 2025 #37

I hear ya Polybius Jun 2025 #39

I think Hilary also would have been a 1 termer ITAL Jun 2025 #8

+1. If trump had lost in 2016, he'd be a miserable pauper now and we'd be much better off. But he did win and Silent Type Jun 2025 #9

I think if 2016 is a very narrow Clinton win, which it likely would have been, I do think he runs again. Self Esteem Jun 2025 #12

I agree that he would have run again Polybius Jun 2025 #24

Ted Cruz never had a "cult". I don't see it. Jack Valentino Jun 2025 #34

He almost won in 2016 Polybius Jun 2025 #35

He was already trying to claim "election fraud" before the 2016 election, Jack Valentino Jun 2025 #33

It's sad because no matter how great she would have been, and she would have.... Blue Owl Jun 2025 #10

Everyone would be so happy being disappointed, angry, afraid, complaining -- the fake scandals, the conspiracies! betsuni Jun 2025 #15

This country would be a much better - and safer - place mcar Jun 2025 #16

What if martians landed and little green men came out and attacked?? This is just troll bait to get people Pisces Jun 2025 #26

The key to "planning from where we are" is MineralMan Jun 2025 #36

The world would be different. pandr32 Jun 2025 #27

the United States would still be RESPECTED Skittles Jun 2025 #31

We, the people, DID elect Hillary Clinton. The Electoral College didn't. GulfofMexico Jun 2025 #38

It is the worst "own goal" in this country's history. Takket Jun 2025 #40

If we had elected Hillary Clinton, Roe v. Wade would still be the law of the land LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2025 #41

Yes, I'm sure it would. MineralMan Jun 2025 #42