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tritsofme

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47. Only conspiracy theory mongers and grifters are "claiming fraud"

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Wed Jun 4, 2025, 02:46 PM

Jun 2025

The fact that actual credible individuals in this field, like Elias, don’t give these ridiculous conspiracy theories any credence, ought to give you pause when embracing this sort of nonsense.

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Trump "won" - Election fraud - time for it to be exposed [View all] SupportSanity Jun 2025 OP

I can't think of a worst time to push speak easy Jun 2025 #1

For the rest of America's life k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #5

The American people have a right to oversee the counting of votes questionseverything Jun 2025 #30

I don't recall ever stating k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #34

If you are willing to trust the voting machines "output " questionseverything Jun 2025 #36

I thought I did k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #50

There's no way we're going back to hand counted ballots. CrispyQ Jun 2025 #37

Ballots are counted precinct by precinct, it's not like anyone is running all 8 million ballots through the same scanner questionseverything Jun 2025 #41

We have mail in voting so most ballots are collected at the elections division or at drop off bins, & then transferred. CrispyQ Jun 2025 #46

So , to be clear, you don't believe in hand counting under any circumstance? questionseverything Jun 2025 #48

No. What I said is I don't believe we're ever going back to hand counted ballots. We're just not. CrispyQ Jun 2025 #49

So no hand recounts for any reason? questionseverything Jun 2025 #53

Hand Counting has a significantly higher error rate than machine counts Wiz Imp Jun 2025 #82

I could understand errors if we were counting 50 races in precincts with thousands of voters questionseverything Jun 2025 #84

I absolutely believe that machines can be more accurate... Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #96

Let 'em prove it, like this groud hopefully will reveal. brush Jun 2025 #65

He proved it for you Blue Full Moon Jun 2025 #72

Why wait a month? If they know something, share it. FemDemERA Jun 2025 #2

Very good question sarisataka Jun 2025 #9

If you would read the information they have already presented tons of evidence questionseverything Jun 2025 #29

He pissed off Elon, multigraincracker Jun 2025 #3

Fingers crossed proud patriot Jun 2025 #40

I have never believed he won all those swing states malaise Jun 2025 #4

Agreed. n/t Dave says Jun 2025 #8

the one time trump ever told the truth NJCher Jun 2025 #11

Me either MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2025 #97

Did they tap Sidney Powell to deliver the presentation at the "big reveal"? tritsofme Jun 2025 #6

The evidence they have shown so far... Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #7

What they have been finding Blue Full Moon Jun 2025 #73

Musk and his kid hackers are good at stealing, manipulating data. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #76

Bingo Blue Full Moon Jun 2025 #86

Elections are controlled by the individual states MichMan Jun 2025 #88

Republicans... Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #91

So what? This is 2025 MichMan Jun 2025 #92

For one thing... Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #95

These are the exact Mountainguy Jun 2025 #10

not the NJCher Jun 2025 #12

Nope, it is exactly the same. They had only grifters and conspiracy theory nut jobs. tritsofme Jun 2025 #14

you are absolutely wrong NJCher Jun 2025 #15

I'm glad that impresses you? tritsofme Jun 2025 #18

show me just one NJCher Jun 2025 #20

No, I'm definitely not going to go through Trump's team tritsofme Jun 2025 #21

Elias does not reject it NJCher Jun 2025 #22

Is that actually even true? Has Elias really moved his position from the below? That would be news. tritsofme Jun 2025 #23

I didn't understand Elias claiming no fraud when questionseverything Jun 2025 #28

Only conspiracy theory mongers and grifters are "claiming fraud" tritsofme Jun 2025 #47

Elias is a lawyer not a programmer questionseverything Jun 2025 #51

Sidney Powell or any other Trump grifter could have delivered that exact same post word-for-word tritsofme Jun 2025 #55

You don't debate in good faith, you don't address any points I make questionseverything Jun 2025 #57

I don't debate the finer points of 9/11 trutherism or QAnon stuff either. This is the same type of nonsense tritsofme Jun 2025 #58

Al franken's recount took 8 months but he won questionseverything Jun 2025 #59

lol, a complete non-sequitur. Franken has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. tritsofme Jun 2025 #62

Ummm the machine count said he lost, he filed for a handcount and won questionseverything Jun 2025 #63

There was not widespread fraud found. It was a very close election tritsofme Jun 2025 #64

The difference is now, for example Wisconsin does not require hand counting even for a recount questionseverything Jun 2025 #66

So were Governor Evers and AG Kaul (both Democrats), just ignorant that an election was stolen out from under them? tritsofme Jun 2025 #67

Idk but if I was going to guess I would say they are afraid of people like you who think transparency is unimportant questionseverything Jun 2025 #69

So you are positing that they "know" the election was stolen but are scared to do or say anything? tritsofme Jun 2025 #70

Don't try putting words in my mouth questionseverything Jun 2025 #71

The Dem cases are going forward NJCher Jun 2025 #16

A county in NY? madville Jun 2025 #25

nope NJCher Jun 2025 #35

6 alleged missing votes in a NY county madville Jun 2025 #38

I can tell NJCher Jun 2025 #43

here's another bio for you NJCher Jun 2025 #19

Literally every argument I've heard is a regurgitation of 2020. Self Esteem Jun 2025 #13

There is a huge difference. Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #17

And if there were Mountainguy Jun 2025 #26

Actually in 2020 when Georgia was hand counted thousands of votes were found questionseverything Jun 2025 #39

If there were, and the results were the same... Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #87

If frogs had wings..... Mountainguy Jun 2025 #93

I'm sorry that I care so deeply that Republicans win by cheating. Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #99

That's damn insulting. MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2025 #98

Sadly not close RANDYWILDMAN Jun 2025 #68

Post again edhopper Jun 2025 #24

We heard him whine and holler and scream about 2020, and disclose every possible way Trump thought the election lees1975 Jun 2025 #27

Trump won the 2024 election fair and square. Jacson6 Jun 2025 #31

Incels and losers cling to conspiracy theories Ponietz Jun 2025 #32

I don't understand how you get to call us "incels and losers" without getting a hide questionseverything Jun 2025 #42

The vote was rigged! Ponietz Jun 2025 #44

After Hillary lost, people begged her to recount Wisconsin questionseverything Jun 2025 #45

Why do people cling to insidious conspiracy theories? Ponietz Jun 2025 #54

So I guess you think Hillary was? questionseverything Jun 2025 #56

I believe the Pennsylvania Secretary of the Commonwealth was hand-picked by Governor Josh Shapiro Ponietz Jun 2025 #60

I believe letting insiders with computer access decide our elections questionseverything Jun 2025 #61

They said incels and losers cling to conspiracy theories. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2025 #75

I believe the American people have the right to oversee the counting of their votes questionseverything Jun 2025 #77

The states did oversee the counting of votes. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2025 #78

I can tell you haven't read any of the work they have produced questionseverything Jun 2025 #79

Yes. People did look at that. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2025 #81

So the logical conclusion is, they went to vote on election day, questionseverything Jun 2025 #83

You're talking about states... Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author ThreeNoSeep Jun 2025 #80

I found it interesting that Musk wanted to use his SpaceX satellites as air traffic controllers.... kentuck Jun 2025 #33

Exactly Blue Full Moon Jun 2025 #74

I go with the scientists. Let the proverbial chips fall where they may. chouchou Jun 2025 #52

Tabulators. Those vote counting computers. Blue Full Moon Jun 2025 #85

Part of the reason they came so hard with the "stolen election" bullshit after '20 is so we'd have to refute hard. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2025 #90

I think even ForgedCrank Jun 2025 #94