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In reply to the discussion: Do you think Trump cheated in the last election? [View all]Bluetus
(2,086 posts)In my state, all election system selection and administration is done on a per-county basis. As an election worker, you never talk with anybody from the state. It is always the county board people. The state has no involvement. And the county election board's IT people are trouble-shooters (very conscientious and dedicated.) They are not systems engineers or fraud monitors.
The state officials may quality the acceptable vendors and equipment, may help with the funding, and may have the authority to overrule or fire local election boards, but elections are run locally almost everywhere. I bet every one of the 7 swing states runs their elections at the county level.
But it is really is irrelevant. The scenario that is alleged would work exactly the same way whether run at the state or local level. Please go back and read that again. The election system companies deployed patches that were not approved at ANY level. And if the tabulators were able to open up root level access via the cell phone adapter in the Tripp Lites (running through Starlink instead of a terrestrial cell network), nobody would know, regardless whether they were at the state or local level. In the alleged scenario, this all was fully tested by September 2024 and implemented without notifying anybody or asking anybody's permission). Starlink is significant because Musk has 100% control over that and could wipe out any traces of such activity via Starlink. Otherwise, there is nothing special about using satellites in this scenario.
Let's turn it around. Let's say you are a state or local IT person. You have run 25 elections with ESS equipment that has always been promised to have no connection with the outside world. On election night, you received the tabulations of election-day results, hand-delivered on thumb drives. This was accompanied by paper tape logs printed by each tabulator, and they all matched their respective thumb drives exactly. In the weeks after the election, you examined a sample of tabulators and they all had exactly the same numbers as reported on election night. And you never scanned any precinct's paper ballots because all the numbers looked OK and nobody asked for a recount.
As an IT professional, why would you take any further steps?
You wouldn't, unless you heard Trump and Musk both boast about doing exactly the scenario I have described. But even then, as an IT staffer, you have no basis for challenging anything.
The point of all of this is that there is a highly plausible way the alleged scheme could have succeeded. I should note that there was also a PR element to this scheme. If you look around a little, you will find videos of the Founder of Palantir on CNBC and elsewhere IN SEPTEMBER 2024, talking about how they are seeing the Harris numbers fall rapidly in every swing state. That helped condition the battlefield to accept the outcome they were (allegedly) creating. https://www.cnbc.com/video/2024/10/25/palantir-co-founder-joe-lonsdale-on-musk-putin-conversations-state-of-2024-election.html
Maybe I am wrong. Maybe none of this happened. Maybe Trump, Musk, and Lonsdale were just talking BS in September. But if any of this is true, we literally can never have a legitimate election again. Isn't it worth having some people simply pick up a stack of ballots and run them through a clean tabulator to see if there is any truth to this?