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Wiz Imp

(10,522 posts)
23. Totally idiotic premise
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 03:09 PM
Jun 2025

Even if it were legally required to vote, you still wouldn't get 100% turnout, so what is the point? Nobody ever tries to get everyone to vote. In fact, the Republicans try extremely hard to prevent as many people from voting as possible - to the point of massive illegal voter suppression actions being a core part of their campaigns.

The goal of Democratic campaigns is always to get as many eligible voters as possible to vote for them. There were tens of millions of eligible voters who didn't vote but would have voted for Harris if they had voted. Those are really the only nonvoters for Democrats to be concerned about.

The only value in polling who nonvoters supposedly would have voted for would be to ask WHY(?) they didn't vote. Of course this useless poll didn't ask that question.

I won't even get into the poll itself which is deeply flawed and doesn't remotely suggest the conclusion the article tried to draw from it.

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Did they include the 2 million voters knocked off the voter rolls in red states? Mostly in Dem voting areas. nt ImNotGod Jun 2025 #1
This will slot in perfectly with the new "blame establishment Democrats" for everything fad. nt LexVegas Jun 2025 #2
I don't know if that is a fad. I've been doing it since at least 1985. nt Gore1FL Jun 2025 #9
You, too? -misanthroptimist Jun 2025 #22
Bullshit.... Lovie777 Jun 2025 #3
Yep. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #5
That include for all the alleged CHEATING? Brainfodder Jun 2025 #4
Fu_k the NYT. If Musk hadn't bribed and bought votes, TSF wouldn't have won. brush Jun 2025 #6
Get a grain of salt. delisen Jun 2025 #7
Let me fix that headline for them. mercuryblues Jun 2025 #8
In recent years I've come to realize "Independents" likely lean right. Not necessarily a lot, but enough to know Silent Type Jun 2025 #10
I read a survey or poll done several years ago mercuryblues Jun 2025 #24
so the NYT has proven to be a reliable purveyor of truth? Conjuay Jun 2025 #40
Bullshit utter and complete bullshit. Botany Jun 2025 #11
Thank you! Bettie Jun 2025 #32
Reading these articles you would think Trump won by 20 million votes WSHazel Jun 2025 #12
The paper of record mcar Jun 2025 #13
No count dlilafae Jun 2025 #14
Here's the Pew Poll the article is based on. Silent Type Jun 2025 #15
No, ST, the hated liars at the NYT completely made it up! maxsolomon Jun 2025 #17
Christ. We lost. Going into midterms believing we didn't lose is a big mistake. But that's never stopped anyone before. Silent Type Jun 2025 #18
He's a Con Man who had unlimited funds to con with. maxsolomon Jun 2025 #20
Yes, Obama would have crushed him too. Unfortunately, Obama & Clinton got bashed by too many Dems right up to Nov 2016 Silent Type Jun 2025 #21
your saying Harris doesn't have charisma? Conjuay Jun 2025 #41
I didn't say she had none, but she doesn't have enough. maxsolomon Jun 2025 #42
The evil NYT does it again! bif Jun 2025 #30
Someone here said the same thing a couple of months ago Polybius Jun 2025 #16
I ask again: name Harris' top-level policy proposal and how it would affect your life Prairie Gates Jun 2025 #19
Are you saying Harris lost because messaging wasn't as strong as Trump? If so, I agree. Doodley Jun 2025 #26
In another thread somebody answered "We're not going back." That's not a policy, but a slogan Prairie Gates Jun 2025 #29
No I can't really name any specific Trump "policies" he ran on because he Wiz Imp Jun 2025 #34
I ask Trumpers why they voted the way they did. They all say "America first." A two-word slogan, and they relate to it. Doodley Jun 2025 #36
Totally idiotic premise Wiz Imp Jun 2025 #23
His whole agenda is below 50 percent in the polls Johonny Jun 2025 #25
Non-stop trump-pimping by the NYT. Paladin Jun 2025 #27
Absolutely not true. Pew needs to a do over and someone else to use their methodology and reproduce the same results. Jit423 Jun 2025 #28
Has Judith Miller been rehired? stillcool Jun 2025 #31
"Mr. Trump's brand of conservative populism" tanyev Jun 2025 #33
Nope, not buying. We got 6.25M more votes in 2020. If they had showed up she would have won in 2024 krawhitham Jun 2025 #35
But Trump would also get more votes if everybody turned out. Doodley Jun 2025 #37
If wishes were horses, beggars would fly. If a fascist were president, NYT would lie. lostnfound Jun 2025 #38
So Trump rigged the election. Emile Jun 2025 #39
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