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In reply to the discussion: If Everyone Had Voted, Harris Still Would Have Lost (NYT) [View all]Doodley
(12,052 posts)36. I ask Trumpers why they voted the way they did. They all say "America first." A two-word slogan, and they relate to it.
"Make America Great Again," everyone knows that one. I mean, everyone. "No taxes on tips," is another one. Doesn't matter they may lose healthcare and have to pay more for groceries, but they believe Trump is one the side of ordinary people. Another thing I hear them say is Laken Riley. They all want to talk about Laken Riley. It doesn't matter there have been 200,000 murders in the past decade, all they want to talk about is the illegal immigrant who committed one of those murders and compare Biden and Trump on immigration.
So yes, I agree with what you are saying.
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Did they include the 2 million voters knocked off the voter rolls in red states? Mostly in Dem voting areas. nt
ImNotGod
Jun 2025
#1
This will slot in perfectly with the new "blame establishment Democrats" for everything fad. nt
LexVegas
Jun 2025
#2
In recent years I've come to realize "Independents" likely lean right. Not necessarily a lot, but enough to know
Silent Type
Jun 2025
#10
Christ. We lost. Going into midterms believing we didn't lose is a big mistake. But that's never stopped anyone before.
Silent Type
Jun 2025
#18
Yes, Obama would have crushed him too. Unfortunately, Obama & Clinton got bashed by too many Dems right up to Nov 2016
Silent Type
Jun 2025
#21
I ask again: name Harris' top-level policy proposal and how it would affect your life
Prairie Gates
Jun 2025
#19
Are you saying Harris lost because messaging wasn't as strong as Trump? If so, I agree.
Doodley
Jun 2025
#26
In another thread somebody answered "We're not going back." That's not a policy, but a slogan
Prairie Gates
Jun 2025
#29
I ask Trumpers why they voted the way they did. They all say "America first." A two-word slogan, and they relate to it.
Doodley
Jun 2025
#36
Absolutely not true. Pew needs to a do over and someone else to use their methodology and reproduce the same results.
Jit423
Jun 2025
#28
Nope, not buying. We got 6.25M more votes in 2020. If they had showed up she would have won in 2024
krawhitham
Jun 2025
#35
If wishes were horses, beggars would fly. If a fascist were president, NYT would lie.
lostnfound
Jun 2025
#38