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In reply to the discussion: If Everyone Had Voted, Harris Still Would Have Lost (NYT) [View all]maxsolomon
(38,749 posts)42. I didn't say she had none, but she doesn't have enough.
Not like MFer does. Not like Obama does. Not like Clinton did.
I was a Harris backer in the 2020 primaries. But she never got traction there, and my takeaway was that her affect is peculiar.
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Did they include the 2 million voters knocked off the voter rolls in red states? Mostly in Dem voting areas. nt
ImNotGod
Jun 2025
#1
This will slot in perfectly with the new "blame establishment Democrats" for everything fad. nt
LexVegas
Jun 2025
#2
In recent years I've come to realize "Independents" likely lean right. Not necessarily a lot, but enough to know
Silent Type
Jun 2025
#10
Christ. We lost. Going into midterms believing we didn't lose is a big mistake. But that's never stopped anyone before.
Silent Type
Jun 2025
#18
Yes, Obama would have crushed him too. Unfortunately, Obama & Clinton got bashed by too many Dems right up to Nov 2016
Silent Type
Jun 2025
#21
I ask again: name Harris' top-level policy proposal and how it would affect your life
Prairie Gates
Jun 2025
#19
Are you saying Harris lost because messaging wasn't as strong as Trump? If so, I agree.
Doodley
Jun 2025
#26
In another thread somebody answered "We're not going back." That's not a policy, but a slogan
Prairie Gates
Jun 2025
#29
I ask Trumpers why they voted the way they did. They all say "America first." A two-word slogan, and they relate to it.
Doodley
Jun 2025
#36
Absolutely not true. Pew needs to a do over and someone else to use their methodology and reproduce the same results.
Jit423
Jun 2025
#28
Nope, not buying. We got 6.25M more votes in 2020. If they had showed up she would have won in 2024
krawhitham
Jun 2025
#35
If wishes were horses, beggars would fly. If a fascist were president, NYT would lie.
lostnfound
Jun 2025
#38