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sheshe2
(97,646 posts)126. Link please, I must have missed all that.
and if they knew all this:
Quite strongly, in fact, correctly warning that Trump would be far worse on Gaza and bad for the country and a vote for Stein would be a vote for Trump.
Then why did they vote uncommitted or not at all in the Primary and in the GE as well?!!!
[b‘We warned you,’ Arab Americans in Michigan tell Kamala Harris
Dearborn, Michigan – When Fox News called Pennsylvania for Donald Trump in the early hours of Wednesday, all but confirming that he would be the next president of the United States, there were a handful of Arab activists left at a watch party in Dearborn, Michigan.
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As the reality of another Trump presidency set off anger and sorrow from many Democratic commentators, at the Dearborn gathering organised by American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC), there was a sense of indifference – if not vindication.
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Harris lost the city to Trump by more than 2,600 votes. President Joe Biden beat Trump by more than 17,400 votes – a more than 20,000-vote swing that helped the Republican former president reclaim Michigan.
Dearborn, Michigan – When Fox News called Pennsylvania for Donald Trump in the early hours of Wednesday, all but confirming that he would be the next president of the United States, there were a handful of Arab activists left at a watch party in Dearborn, Michigan.
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As the reality of another Trump presidency set off anger and sorrow from many Democratic commentators, at the Dearborn gathering organised by American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC), there was a sense of indifference – if not vindication.
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Harris lost the city to Trump by more than 2,600 votes. President Joe Biden beat Trump by more than 17,400 votes – a more than 20,000-vote swing that helped the Republican former president reclaim Michigan.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/6/we-warned-you-arab-americans-in-michigan-tell-kamala-harris
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People seem to forget the Uncommitted Movement was in the primaries as a way to try to influence candidates on Gaza.
Nanjeanne
Jun 2025
#22
Once a voter has been convinced to disengage from the primary, they're not returning for the General.
Oopsie Daisy
Jun 2025
#38
Oh really? I didn't know that. I was disengaged in the primary but returned for the General. I must have been the
Nanjeanne
Jun 2025
#49
Well that's two of us. But we must be outliers because someone much more knowledgeable said so.
Nanjeanne
Jun 2025
#87
Okay, so pure speculation and surmising as I thought. Only those people who may not have voted or voted Trump due to
KPN
Jun 2025
#114
It's unbelievable how many Dems want to sink Mamdani. I don't think these attempts are getting the results you
Pisces
Jun 2025
#3
There are other issues that are unpopular with Democrats that many people here find perfectly acceptable.
BannonsLiver
Jun 2025
#86
I also don't think most democrats agree with "seizing the means of production"
fujiyamasan
Jun 2025
#113
It's more hatred toward policies that aren't tied to corporate donors and the prison industrial complex
AStern
Jun 2025
#40
Well it's certainly not helping... we need to be unified if were gonna stave off the MAGAts!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2025
#140
And these are Democrats!! Mamdani was democratically nominated to be NY's mayoral candidate so let's support him & win!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2025
#136
He's DU's new number one it guy, so I'm sure he will be afforded all of that and more.
BannonsLiver
Jun 2025
#12
It's one of the great values of this space that we collectively agree not to relitigate primaries
Prairie Gates
Jun 2025
#13
DU has developed unique rules and culture, it is true - and they are distinct from norms of public discourse
Prairie Gates
Jun 2025
#21
This is very disappointing news. But it explains a lot of what I've been hearing AND NOT HEARING recently.
Oopsie Daisy
Jun 2025
#15
I know a lot of people had hurt feelings about it, but the uncommitted movement was not "against" Biden.
WhiskeyGrinder
Jun 2025
#20
The effect is the same. If an elected official convinces someone to NOT vote in the primary *
Oopsie Daisy
Jun 2025
#25
The point of "uncommitted" is that people DID vote in the primary, participating in all races but voting "uncommitted"
WhiskeyGrinder
Jun 2025
#33
Once they declared themselves as "uncommitted" in the Primaries they never returned for the General.
Oopsie Daisy
Jun 2025
#34
It was also against VP Harris because the Uncommitted Movement refused to endorse VP Harris
lostincalifornia
Jun 2025
#62
This shines a new light on the question everyone's been asking wondering why some Democratic leaders *
Oopsie Daisy
Jun 2025
#43
Well isn't that special. Is it legitimate to ask who he voted for in the General Election?
lostincalifornia
Jun 2025
#26
The uncommited movement refused to endorse VP Harris for the Presidential election against trump?
lostincalifornia
Jun 2025
#37
Then I guess there is sure a lot of manipulation going on, because much of the same folks seem to
lostincalifornia
Jun 2025
#61
This whole thread incorrectly conflates Uncommitted with Abandon Biden/Harris.
AloeVera
Jul 2025
#146
It's deliberate. Some people would prefer a MAGAT in office than a real progressive
vanessa_ca
Jun 2025
#46
No... I hate to break it to you, but the "leave it blank" and "Abandon Harris" movement *
Oopsie Daisy
Jun 2025
#48
The shame is in not ever speaking out about the war crimes and atrocities. Not in Biden's time and not now.
AloeVera
Jul 2025
#163
Cuomo is runnnig as an independent and will split the dem vote giving the repuke the election.
mdbl
Jun 2025
#68
I agree. This is what people SHOULD actually be worried about. Not Mamdani or anything related to him.
Karasu
Jun 2025
#69
Cuomo would be splitting votes with Adams, leaving Mamdani a pathway to victory.
Zohran25
Jul 2025
#159
I should have stopped reading at "Mamdani was working to peel votes away from Harris". A fabrication.
AloeVera
Jul 2025
#164
There ya go. And so many here are falling all over themselves to root for this guy...
brush
Jun 2025
#96
He clearly signaled he was alieghed with the Muslims who didh't for Harris. Ooga booge at. that.
brush
Jul 2025
#176
How much influence does a New York State Assembly rep have over a presidential election?
AloeVera
Jul 2025
#174
If he wins, the mayor of NYC clear has national influence and will be pointed to...
brush
Jul 2025
#180
"Biden's complicity in genocide". Don't even try to hide this shit any more, huh? nt
LexVegas
Jul 2025
#148