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Wiz Imp

(10,461 posts)
32. Yes, I got it. It's appalling and disgraceful. It should be illegal.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 09:06 PM
Jul 2025

It's total propaganda. More imitation of third world dictator stuff. This makes me really mad. It's also a lie:

https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/personal-finance/one-big-beautiful-bill

What’s inside the new tax law?

Temporary provisions good for 4 years
In addition to the permanent provisions, the legislation includes numerous temporary deductions and credits good only for tax years 2025 through 2028, including:

An added senior tax deduction. People who are age 65 and older will get an additional $6,000 deduction that begins to phase out at incomes of $75,000 for single filers and $150,000 for joint filers. Note: The enhanced deduction would be in addition to the $2,000 single filers and $3,200 married filers are currently able to deduct if they are 65 or older.

What isn't in the new law?
No taxes on Social Security. The legislation does not include President Trump's proposal to eliminate taxes on Social Security benefits, which are taxable up to 85% for individuals with income of more than $34,000 or a couple with combined income of $44,000 or more. However, the additional $6,000 deduction for people who are 65 and older may help offset taxes on Social Security benefits for some individuals with income at these thresholds for the next 4 years.


So not only was eliminating taxes on SS benefits a lie, the alternative measure which is supposed to help seniors is only temporary for 4 years. Not only that but check this out:

https://apnews.com/article/trump-congress-big-bill-tax-social-security-adea287e00c7c553f69f3667d3ef78cc
Touting a new Council of Economic Advisers analysis, the White House said Tuesday that “88% of all seniors who receive Social Security — will pay NO TAX on their Social Security benefits,” going on to say that the Senate proposal’s $6,000 senior deduction “is estimated to benefit 33.9 million seniors, including seniors not claiming Social Security. The deduction yields an average increase in after-tax income of $670 per senior who benefits from it.”


The average benefit is a whopping $670. Now, I know, even $670 would be a welcome benefit for many seniors. However, since that is the average benefit, those with lower income will see even lower benefits than that. Not exactly the windfall that Trump was promising, is it?

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No, are you sure it's real? Ocelot II Jul 2025 #1
I'm sure Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #2
I received it 😂 wanderer54 Jul 2025 #48
Yep. I got it and there's a press release on the SSA website EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #5
Snapshots of the press release from the government website. Celerity Jul 2025 #46
No peggysue2 Jul 2025 #3
Got mine 10 minutes ago Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #4
Use Gyazo to take a snapshot and then post the link. It's super simple. Celerity Jul 2025 #45
I just received the email, Eliot peggysue2 Jul 2025 #47
No. It sounds like a scam. Delete it and don't click on anything. yardwork Jul 2025 #6
It's not Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #7
I'm not going to click on that. yardwork Jul 2025 #8
Do a Google search and you'll see Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #10
I just got the email myself! Good Lord! yardwork Jul 2025 #23
It pisses me off, I'm sure it pisses you off. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #25
Just google it and you'll see Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #9
I haven't gotten one yet. markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #11
Just do a Google search, this is real Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #12
Sure, markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #15
I should've gave you a lol that was a good joke actually Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #18
Haha, I think that markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #21
There are several different type of subscriptions Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #24
I use AOL..rarely get emails and don't believe I've ever received one from SS. I thought they only mailed notices Deuxcents Jul 2025 #31
If markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #43
I did receive the Social Security email at 8:27. markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #44
No, I did not receive it. SheltieLover Jul 2025 #13
The SSA release claims that it is because of the bill that . . . John1956PA Jul 2025 #14
I think that it is a four markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #20
Yes. The threshold for other income to cause . . . John1956PA Jul 2025 #22
I'm still working so this is maga deal is utterly worthless Klarkashton Jul 2025 #28
It's practically nothing. Whole trump makes billions Klarkashton Jul 2025 #29
The bill's average benefit to seniors is an increase in after tax income of just $670. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #34
Yes, it was always the case Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #30
I know from experience it doesn't rzemanfl Jul 2025 #37
Yes. I received it WENSTJDON Jul 2025 #16
I clicked on the link (I have a really good virus/malware blocker) and looks to be the real thing. generalbetrayus Jul 2025 #17
Really pisses me off, but nothing will change until we realize Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #19
Shit in this. I've been waiting 2 fucking months now Klarkashton Jul 2025 #26
Yes, I got the email. beaglelover Jul 2025 #27
Yes, I got it. It's appalling and disgraceful. It should be illegal. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #32
I just got it. All I can say is WTF. Croney Jul 2025 #33
I haven't Rebl2 Jul 2025 #35
Yes... deRien Jul 2025 #36
Yes I did, the gaslighting is relentless. Who will be vigilant against these government lies ? dem4decades Jul 2025 #38
Nothing here...yet. Totally Tunsie Jul 2025 #39
Just received mine Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #40
I got it. nt LexVegas Jul 2025 #41
Got it. moondust Jul 2025 #42
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