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Zipgun

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13. The bill's ultimate passing was inevitable, but the 4th photo op signing was not.

Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:50 PM

Jul 2025

If they had drawn it out. just a couple day's longer then they could have taunted Trump with that small failure. But that would have been enough to provoke Trump into a tantrum. There will be no positive legislation passed this session, but make every bad bill a drawn out bitter fight.

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Tepid, at best. The weak resistance to "the big beautiful bill" once again is a missed opportunity to show a unified [View all] Zipgun Jul 2025 OP

Can you be specific about what more you think they could have done? EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #1

Dragged the process out till after the 4th. Preventing this bill from passing was never a possibility as the GOP Zipgun Jul 2025 #12

How? Magic hand waving doesn't answer the specific how EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #18

I'm critical of leadership but this was inevitable newdeal2 Jul 2025 #2

The bill's ultimate passing was inevitable, but the 4th photo op signing was not. Zipgun Jul 2025 #13

Still waiting for your explanation as to how, under the rules governing Senate action onenote Jul 2025 #22

And what good would it do Keepthesoulalive Jul 2025 #27

In reality, the problem may be the Republican elected officials fear Trump more than their constituents karynnj Jul 2025 #3

Yeah, this is all Democrats' fault mcar Jul 2025 #4

Of Course.. amazing how no chance Cha Jul 2025 #19

Once it was clear it was going to pass, Democrats should have just walked out. The floor speeches were a waste of Silent Type Jul 2025 #5

Well, I'm not familiar with your posts, so I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here. MineralMan Jul 2025 #6

I said stopping the bill was not possible, but delaying it was. Why give Trump his 4th photo op? Why let the GOP make Zipgun Jul 2025 #15

Again, you don't seem to have a grasp of how the Senate process works. onenote Jul 2025 #23

Should I have applauded Schumer for giving up all our leverage with the extension because he was afraid Zipgun Jul 2025 #30

And you still haven't given a single solid example of how Democrats could've delayed the Big Ugly Bill. onenote Jul 2025 #36

What a dumb thread. More trashing Democrats for things Republicans do. tritsofme Jul 2025 #7

So we should praise "good" but ineffective democrats? Can you please list their important wins? Small wins? Zipgun Jul 2025 #33

Your post has a significant math problem Renew Deal Jul 2025 #8

You have a significant calendar problem. They could have made it their goal to blow the GOP's self imposed deadline. Zipgun Jul 2025 #17

A symbolic waste of time Renew Deal Jul 2025 #29

Do you think that now this bill has passed that congress is going to pass good legislation? Zipgun Jul 2025 #32

You make some good points leftstreet Jul 2025 #9

Yeah, let's blame the Democrats some more. Ocelot II Jul 2025 #10

Not much else they could have done Buckeyeblue Jul 2025 #11

The vote arama had the most amendments ever dsc Jul 2025 #14

the Dems literally did all the stalling/procedural stuff you think they didn't do Takket Jul 2025 #16

The GOP has been telegraphing budget reconciliation for months. Sure this bill could not have been filibustered, but Zipgun Jul 2025 #25

We see what you're trying to do here - demoralize Dems. Sogo Jul 2025 #20

No, no you don't. I don't "work" for anyone. But I would like my party to "work" for me. Better yet, fight smarter. Zipgun Jul 2025 #21

WHY DON'T DEMOCRATS STOP ... OH WAIT I MEAN DRAG IT OUT A LITTLE ... ALL THE BAD THINGS REPUBLICANS DO? betsuni Jul 2025 #24

THEY SHOULD! That's my answer. slow everything down as much as possible. You think this is the last bad thing they Zipgun Jul 2025 #26

Democrats don't control the House, though. Republicans did for majority of Clinton and Obama admin. betsuni Jul 2025 #28

Or even a specific action that was legal that they could have taken this time? Renew Deal Jul 2025 #31

Gingrich lead the GOP to torpedo as many bills as possible to frustrate voters and paint the democratically controlled Zipgun Jul 2025 #35

What bills did Gingrich lead the GOP to torpedo? Name some. How was he the leader before he was Speaker? betsuni Jul 2025 #37

I'm not going to pretend qazplm135 Jul 2025 #34

I think it's fine that Trump signed his big ugly bill on the 4th. Morbius Jul 2025 #38