On Time

[H2O Man]

13. Thanks!

If you get a chance, you can find Bill Moyer's interview with Onondaga Faith Keeper Oren Lyons. He is 95 now, and still active. One of the wisest human beings of this era.

(I first encountered Oren when he trained the great Carmen Basilio's last fighter, Greg Sorrentino, more than 50 years ago. My brother-in-law fought Greg twice, so Oren and I worked opposite corners. Eventually I ended up meeting with Oren and Chief Waterman at Oren's cabin. My boys were cute little ones then, and Oren and Paul spoiled them. Now, when my son drags me to fight cards, we encounter Greg and Oren. My younger son was 4 when he first met Oren, so it was nice to see how surprised my boy had gotten. I think that public school children should be exposed to the Traditional way of thinking.)