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caseymoz

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41. The Kirkwood City Council shooting case.

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:19 PM

Dec 2012

Where Charles Lee "Cookie" Thorton shot two police officers, the Mayor, two city council members, the public works director, and a reporter. Five dead and two wounded

This one was different than most in that Thornton had a clear motive: revenge. The City of Kirkwood harassed him over a long period and forced him out of business. Thornton had just lost a suit against the City.

That's different from the ones with the highest body counts, which usually have motives that are mostly in the minds of the shooter, which is exactly why they're called insane.

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Nailed it!! A Tweet from "Atlanta's Mayor" going around FB. [View all] jillan Dec 2012 OP

Pretty sure that's not the Mayor. nt onehandle Dec 2012 #1

I know :) but that's who this person thinks they are on twitter. jillan Dec 2012 #3

Yep. We ask "why do white males go on spree killings?" Recursion Dec 2012 #2

Do black men actually go on spree killings? I'm open, just haven't heard of any. DesertDiamond Dec 2012 #24

I take that back, there was one in the 1990s in Washington D.C. But seems comparatively rare. DesertDiamond Dec 2012 #25

Wasn't Colin McFergason (sp) a Man of Color? WiffenPoof Dec 2012 #30

He was a middle classs Afro-Jamaican man malaise Dec 2012 #38

Yeah...I'm Not Disagreeing... WiffenPoof Dec 2012 #40

which makes him totally not black arely staircase Dec 2012 #67

LOL malaise Dec 2012 #68

Not that I recall; the DC snipers were serial killers, as was Wayne Williams (Atlanta) who was a Nay Dec 2012 #31

The DC sniper mastermind, John Muhammad, wanted to kill his wife. MADem Dec 2012 #63

Yes. There were those two snipers in the NE...older one and younger one. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #53

meh. Timothy McVie and Terry Nichols Schema Thing Dec 2012 #4

I don't know about that - I hear McVie & Terry Nicholas' names coming up alot lately as examples jillan Dec 2012 #7

seriously? they had clear, stated, political aims. Schema Thing Dec 2012 #45

It a tweet from someone called "Atlanta's Mayor..." KeepItReal Dec 2012 #5

seems legit Lex Dec 2012 #6

That's easy, Mayor Bok_Tukalo Dec 2012 #8

that Livluvgrow Dec 2012 #9

They where? Tsiyu Dec 2012 #10

please Livluvgrow Dec 2012 #12

You totally missed the billh58 Dec 2012 #16

The VA Tech shooter, Asian. The DC snipers, African American. Fort Hood's Hasan is Palestinian-Ameri Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #20

The difference between DC snipers and Hasan/VA Tech shooter is that the DC snipers would be Nay Dec 2012 #33

95% of spree killers in the US are white males. nt brush Dec 2012 #55

do you have a link for that percentage? thanks. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #64

Link here brush Dec 2012 #65

thanks for the link and for the honesty. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #66

On DU, using facts to point out examples of racism, is in itself racism. RC Dec 2012 #23

well heaven05 Dec 2012 #39

As a white guy, I see the post as extremely accurate Tempest Dec 2012 #15

A racist tweet ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #18

Persecution complex BainsBane Dec 2012 #56

+1! uponit7771 Dec 2012 #59

How is it racist? gollygee Dec 2012 #22

you datasuspect Dec 2012 #26

I really think it has to do with the situation... McDiggy Dec 2012 #11

I was about to post the same thing. progressoid Dec 2012 #13

But ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #21

Plus, those two were NOT spree killers -- they were serial killers. There HAVE been a few Black Nay Dec 2012 #35

The Kirkwood City Council shooting case. caseymoz Dec 2012 #41

I agree that that case is a bit different. I don't remember how the FBI categorizes something like Nay Dec 2012 #47

As I read the other day. caseymoz Dec 2012 #49

That makes sense to call them all 'mass shootings' and them break them down into other Nay Dec 2012 #50

More troubling is ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #14

That's right Tempest Dec 2012 #17

Yup. nt Nay Dec 2012 #34

+1000 billh58 Dec 2012 #19

What is even more troubling than that is that the majority of these mass murders has been by jillan Dec 2012 #27

And most white men would agree with you...those who have dealt with their libdem4life Dec 2012 #32

Yep! Yep! Yep! qanda Dec 2012 #28

Nails it down even more treestar Dec 2012 #61

I believe the African American man Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #29

Certainly. But he is not in the category of serial/spree killers that is the topic of this post. Nay Dec 2012 #37

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #42

That's an important distinction I missed Shankapotomus Dec 2012 #48

Sorry. Not a fair comparison. caseymoz Dec 2012 #36

Yeah, where IS Homeland Security on all these mass shootings? bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #43

Nailed it!! A Tweet from "Atlanta's Mayor" going around FB The CCC Dec 2012 #44

The Mayor of Atlanta is Kasim Reed and that post is not from him. nt mfcorey1 Dec 2012 #51

That is this person's twitter name, as you can see from his tweet. jillan Dec 2012 #57

Destructive bigbadR Dec 2012 #46

White men don't kill...they just stand their ground... radhika Dec 2012 #52

Excellent reply :) jillan Dec 2012 #58

Yep, you nailed it, and came up with a real slogan for the NRA mountain grammy Dec 2012 #62

CORRECT Skittles Dec 2012 #54

Spot on! nt valerief Dec 2012 #60