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writerJT

(467 posts)
85. But
Sat Aug 9, 2025, 01:48 PM
Aug 2025

Have you seen anyone on DU say that?

That is your standard (numerous times in this thread) when someone quotes pro-genocide Israel supporters, and you appear to use it to close off the debate. So let’s use it here.

Also:

I've seen fussing about that number but no plausible refutation. I continue to believe my statement.


That’s “prove me wrong” logic. ❌

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"Try and stop me before I kill again." IDF motto. marble falls Aug 2025 #1
$40 billion a year in taxpayer money sent to Israel. Duncanpup Aug 2025 #2
Not including the millions sent in donations from individuals. marble falls Aug 2025 #3
Seriously. It's akin to "Southie" privately funding the IRA. paleotn Aug 2025 #16
Worse. Compare AIPAC which plays in US and Israeli politics and NORAID which purely bought arms, quite unsuccessfully .. marble falls Aug 2025 #111
Amen! paleotn Aug 2025 #14
Now, they appear to be a full-blown Soviet influenced Jewish state maxrandb Aug 2025 #32
And they have Universal Health Care Quanta Aug 2025 #26
The U.S. doesn't pay for Israelis' health care. yardwork Aug 2025 #33
What we give them frees up the money for the universal health care Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #54
That's simply incorrect. yardwork Aug 2025 #59
Not a falsehood Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #71
That is ridiculous from a total dollar stand point, but paleotn Aug 2025 #55
It's too bad we elected Trump, for those and many other reasons. yardwork Aug 2025 #61
Netanyahu knew Trump was in. Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #72
"We provide military aid, and not that much." PufPuf23 Aug 2025 #104
US aid to Israel was equivalent to $1,400 for every Israeli man, woman and child in 2024. David__77 Aug 2025 #110
That country loves playing victim. It never ends. writerJT Aug 2025 #4
Post removed Post removed Aug 2025 #5
They are getting ready to Bettie Aug 2025 #6
One of tsf's moron sons said that part out loud 6+ months ago. rubbersole Aug 2025 #8
Kushner's ready. KPN Aug 2025 #25
This is probably all Hamas' fault or something Orrex Aug 2025 #7
Not defending what Israel is doing in Gaza, but they have been attacked repeatedly EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #9
There's a lot of ignorance in this thread. yardwork Aug 2025 #10
Diisappointing to see people condoning wholesale genocide and ethnic cleansing by bibi for profit. lark Aug 2025 #13
I haven't seen any of that here, but I don't see all posts. yardwork Aug 2025 #17
"Demonize Israel as an entire nation"???? maxrandb Aug 2025 #39
Israelis have more reason to vote for an authoritarian than we do. yardwork Aug 2025 #40
I genuinely hear you, feel for you, and understand where you're coming from even if I don't agree. vanessa_ca Aug 2025 #49
Yes, it would be acceptable to criticize Israeli leaders. yardwork Aug 2025 #51
I appreciate this clarification. ShazzieB Aug 2025 #75
Exactly. And btw I'm not Jewish. yardwork Aug 2025 #77
It makes it impossible to have a real discussion about JI7 Aug 2025 #19
I've read at least four books, three of them by Jewish writers, on Israel's history and founding. Lonestarblue Aug 2025 #23
And there are many other books that give a more nuanced history. yardwork Aug 2025 #34
Absolutely Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #78
It isn't ignorance sarisataka Aug 2025 #64
It's a mix. yardwork Aug 2025 #68
Pretending that justifies murder of an entire people is also ignoring history and humanity. lark Aug 2025 #11
I haven't seen anyone say it justifies murder of an entire people. yardwork Aug 2025 #18
Not directly, but saying destroying Gaza & it's people is ok - and ignoring the reality is really the same thing, IMO. lark Aug 2025 #20
I haven't seen anyone on DU say that. yardwork Aug 2025 #21
that's pretty much what the WHATABOUTISM is all about Skittles Aug 2025 #102
Serious question, did you somehow not see the part where I said I'm not defending that? EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #30
I think that's a fair statement. 70sEraVet Aug 2025 #12
It is their purpose to change us to a vicious undemocratic country & they start from the top. lark Aug 2025 #15
I think that saying our history "was uneven" misrepresents how bad we've been. yardwork Aug 2025 #22
It's a toughie. malthaussen Aug 2025 #24
I think the US did far worse in Iraq and Afghanistan alone. yardwork Aug 2025 #27
And you can't erase Israel's guilt by pointing out the faults of the US. CivicGrief Aug 2025 #53
Both nations are guilty. yardwork Aug 2025 #56
I would assume that most of us here Bettie Aug 2025 #96
It's not whataboutism. I condemn Israel's actions. yardwork Aug 2025 #97
I haven't seen *any* posts on here making broad brush attacks on Jewish people. Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #113
Yeah, I was being nice for a change. lol lark Aug 2025 #31
Maybe be a little nicer to Jewish people? yardwork Aug 2025 #35
I don't whitewash AAmerican atrocities, but the worst was 100's of years ago. lark Aug 2025 #43
I'm afraid that's simply not true. yardwork Aug 2025 #48
Like you've said MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #92
Irgun started it all w a truck bomb on the 40s IbogaProject Aug 2025 #29
It did not start in the 1940s. yardwork Aug 2025 #36
OK 1930's IbogaProject Aug 2025 #47
Jews owned 6% of land in 1947. AloeVera Aug 2025 #95
Hold on! Israel begun invading other countries for expansion within decades of being GIVEN ( yes GIVEN) their own Exp Aug 2025 #45
Also not understanding why there is violence is also moniss Aug 2025 #46
Thanks for all your insight and knowledge. Great analysis. AloeVera Aug 2025 #90
You completely missed the point of my response in the context of this thread EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #105
It's hardly missing the point and I stand by everything I said and I would moniss Aug 2025 #106
Just forget and look over Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #69
Post removed Post removed Aug 2025 #28
Why not? We do it all the time. yardwork Aug 2025 #37
Huh, What? Can you be more specific? I mean, you need to be more specific! Bombing Iraq was obviously wrong, but that Exp Aug 2025 #44
The U.S. killed and tortured millions in Iraq and Afghanistan. yardwork Aug 2025 #50
Are you condemning both genocides? writerJT Aug 2025 #58
I condemn every genocide. yardwork Aug 2025 #60
That is consistent. writerJT Aug 2025 #62
If you're talking about Jewish hypocrisy be sure to include us, too. yardwork Aug 2025 #67
Is this how you approach every issue? writerJT Aug 2025 #79
Yes, I'm on a mission to point out an unfair double standard. yardwork Aug 2025 #86
Selective double standard. writerJT Aug 2025 #87
the WHATABOUTISM is absolutely rampant with I/P Skittles Aug 2025 #112
"Tortured millions".. I don't think so. Exp Aug 2025 #65
Killed and tortured millions. yardwork Aug 2025 #66
Not true. High estimate is just over ONE million dead, low est. is 150k dead. That is not millions. Exp Aug 2025 #70
And it wasn't GENOCIDE as Israel is committing in Gaza and West Bank. Not even close. Exp Aug 2025 #73
"Bomb them back to the Stone Age." yardwork Aug 2025 #76
You've abandoned numbers writerJT Aug 2025 #81
I haven't abandoned anything. yardwork Aug 2025 #82
But writerJT Aug 2025 #85
This post makes no sense to me. yardwork Aug 2025 #89
LOL writerJT Aug 2025 #94
Israel is an apartheid nation based on 20th and 21st century colonialism. Uncle Joe Aug 2025 #38
Media from country with largest military in history of world whines about another countries forces. nt LexVegas Aug 2025 #41
And pretends to be purer than the driven snow. yardwork Aug 2025 #52
Post removed Post removed Aug 2025 #42
DURec leftstreet Aug 2025 #57
Patriots like to talk about dying for their country but never about killing for their country. Ping Tung Aug 2025 #63
Heaven knows that nation has never been attacked without justification sarisataka Aug 2025 #74
See post #46 for a very thoughtful and nuanced retort to such oversimplification. AloeVera Aug 2025 #88
I can agree it is more nuanced than most sarisataka Aug 2025 #93
The exact opposite is true. AloeVera Aug 2025 #107
Since you incorrectly assumed my side, everything that follows is not applicable sarisataka Aug 2025 #109
Whoever fights monsters Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #80
I believe that our crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan are being visited against us. yardwork Aug 2025 #83
And that goes both ways. AloeVera Aug 2025 #91
Stealing people's homes because of a book of myths Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #99
Miriam Margolyes was branded antisemitic for saying the same vanessa_ca Aug 2025 #103
I'm glad I don't hear significant legitimate Dem leadership taking this attitude. gulliver Aug 2025 #84
Do you look at the rapidly-expanding Bettie Aug 2025 #100
Yes, I do think radical religion and radical ideology of any kind create problems gulliver Aug 2025 #101
Rec. Xavier Breath Aug 2025 #98
The crybully aspect is notable. David__77 Aug 2025 #108
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