Nation that always cries it is a victim. Readies its army to expand mission creep.

[Bettie]

96. I would assume that most of us here

are fully aware that the US has done some truly awful things in the past and in the present. In the future more terrible things will happen. That won't be okay.

I won't support them. After 9/11, horrific as it was, both DH and I were worried (vaguely sick) because we knew that many people would die from our nation's need for revenge over the attack.

Did we attack the countries responsible for the attack? Nope.

We went after Iraq because W wanted a war there and Afghanistan, where the "training camps" were...not word one to, say Saudi Arabia where most of them were from, where Bin Laden was from. Maybe W (and his handlers) should have paid attention to warnings of an imminent attack instead of whatever the fuck he was doing.

Our guilt as a nation can never be expunged, but none of the wrongdoing of the US makes what Netanyahu and his group of far right wing supporters are doing right either.

This is weapons grade whataboutism.