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Sat Aug 9, 2025, 04:35 PM Aug 2025

Imagine inviting Hitler to the U.S .in WW2 to negotiate giving away parts of Europe to Nazi Germany [View all]

Ben Meiselas @meiselasb
Letting Putin visit the United State and not inviting Zelenskyy



The Wall Street Journal @WSJ
Breaking: Russian President Vladimir Putin told the U.S. he'll halt the war in exchange for Eastern Ukraine
https://www.wsj.com/world/putin-russia-ukraine-ceasefire-proposal-0021453b?mod=e2tw


The New York Times @nytimes
Breaking News: President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine rejected President Trump’s proposal that a peace deal could cede land to Russia.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/09/world/europe/zelensky-trump-ukraine-russia.html



Ukraine Battle Map @ukraine_map
Imagine inviting Hitler to the US 🇺🇸 in WW2 to negotiate giving away parts of Europe to Nazi Germany



Zelensky Rejects Ceding Territory to Russia After Trump Suggests a Land Swap

Mr. Trump said on Friday that he would meet with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia on Aug. 15 in Alaska to discuss a possible peace deal, with potential land swaps most likely on the agenda.

“We’re going to get some back, and we’re going to get some switched,” he said during an event at the White House. “There’ll be some swapping of territories to the betterment of both.”

Mr. Trump did not clarify which territories could be swapped, and Ukrainian officials appeared uncertain about what he meant. Because Ukraine holds no Russian land, a swap would mean ceding Ukrainian-controlled territory in return for land currently occupied by Russia.

“Ukrainians will not gift their land to the occupier,” Mr. Zelensky said in a video address from his office in Kyiv, several hours after Mr. Trump’s remarks, which appeared to overlook Ukraine’s role in the negotiations.

“Any decisions made against us, any decisions made without Ukraine, are at the same time decisions against peace,” Mr. Zelensky said. “They will bring nothing. These are dead decisions; they will never work.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/09/world/europe/zelensky-trump-ukraine-russia.html

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FDR was much too smart to do that. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2025 #1
It wasn't done on US soil TexLaProgressive Aug 2025 #2
so you think Yalta favored the Soviet Union bigtree Aug 2025 #6
Another more significant factor TnDem Aug 2025 #8
Nicely written summary. erronis Aug 2025 #11
Imagine giving the nuclear codes to a psychotic pathological liar Submariner Aug 2025 #3
It's disgusting mcar Aug 2025 #4
Europe did that via the Munich Agreement in 1938. sinkingfeeling Aug 2025 #5
yep. It was appeasment bigtree Aug 2025 #7
Sick. Sick, sick, sick Hekate Aug 2025 #9
Which one is Hitler? malaise Aug 2025 #10
Bingo 3825-87867 Aug 2025 #12
You kind of have a point. Almost like the Hitler/Stalin pact about Poland... Wounded Bear Aug 2025 #13
Yes! 3825-87867 Aug 2025 #14
THIS malaise Aug 2025 #17
Why am I thinking about . . . AverageOldGuy Aug 2025 #15
appeasement bigtree Aug 2025 #18
And now it's being announced to the world on social media IcyPeas Aug 2025 #16
Putin already 'owns' Mar-a-Lago bigtree Aug 2025 #19
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