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SunSeeker

(58,263 posts)
125. Oh please. The Southern Democrats of Jim Crow are now the Republican Party.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 01:52 PM
Aug 2025

The Democratic Party pulled our troops out of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, after the Republicans started those wars.

We didn't invade Vietnam. We provided military support to the South Vietnamese against the Russian backed North Vietnamese. It was Nixon who secretly sabotaged the Vietnam War peace talks so he could get elected...then escalated the war with secret bombing campaigns in neighboring countries.

The Democratic Party does not and never supported the masked Gestapo force that Homeland Security and ICE have become under Trump.

With regard to gay marriage and interracial marriage, it was the Democratic Party who championed both as public opinion turned to support both, yet it is Republicans threaten both.

Japanese internment was not just a Democratic Party thing. A poll from the American Institute of Public Opinion in March 1942 shows that 93 percent of Americans were in favor of the removal of Japanese immigrants and 59 percent supported the removal of Japanese American citizens. The Democratic Party acknowledged that Japanese interment was wrong, but the Republican Party is literally repeating that wrong today with their ICE internment camps.

What matters most, of course, is what positions a political party holds currently. That "nauseating list" you conjured up about the Democratic Party does not represent its current positions. But as far as anyone can tell, the DSA still thinks NATO should not exist and family structure should not exist either.

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link? Shellback Squid Aug 2025 #1
It isn't hidden. Just google it. This isn't new. lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #2
"There are a lot of naive people in the world." soldierant Aug 2025 #39
just got here.. I agree w this...was thinking of saying something similar. You covered it. 👍 electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #66
Your excerpt is taken out of context al bupp Aug 2025 #152
Thanks for the full statement by DSA.It makes a great difference. nt delisen Aug 2025 #156
It's meaningless. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #175
move on. AltairIV Aug 2025 #3
No. Cha Aug 2025 #11
Tell this to the people of New York City and Minneapolis question everything Aug 2025 #60
He can win but...... AltairIV Aug 2025 #64
Ummm... "the democrat party" ??? electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #67
There is no such thing as the "democrat party" -- Republicans made that name up. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #122
Well, as a NYC'r...NOT an Adam's, or Cuomo fan. So Zohran, it is. and* electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #68
I think Zohran won because of his voter engagement, not just his DSA affiliation. Just my two cents! LeftInTX Aug 2025 #163
I'm sure that helped. electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #164
They seem to be here mcar Aug 2025 #70
I agree with them n/t leftstreet Aug 2025 #4
You'd just let Russia invade and take over Ukraine? yardwork Aug 2025 #5
There are NATO troops in Ukraine? leftstreet Aug 2025 #8
I think we're talking past one another. yardwork Aug 2025 #15
I think so leftstreet Aug 2025 #29
Wow. There's so many brown people in Ukraine being oppressed by NATO. Who knew? Hekate Aug 2025 #17
There are a fair number of "brown" people being oppressed by Russia. yardwork Aug 2025 #20
Ah, you could be right electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #69
But my question was about the people NATO is accused of oppressing in Ukraine. I know about Russian conscripting from... Hekate Aug 2025 #82
I don't know of anybody NATO is oppressing. yardwork Aug 2025 #86
I think you and I are on the same page. I've been trying to tease out (so to speak) an admission... Hekate Aug 2025 #89
What? About letting Putin rape and pillage Ukraine in the name of "anti-imperialism"? Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #36
Disband NATO and pull out of Ukraine are very bad ideas uponit7771 Aug 2025 #129
I said nothing about Ukraine leftstreet Aug 2025 #131
What country has NATO taken over with its "imperialism"? SunSeeker Aug 2025 #134
They've screwed up a couple of times but I don't notice pattern of taking over people's property like a proper imperial uponit7771 Aug 2025 #137
Hugh! H2O Man Aug 2025 #6
lol, and Robb is a dingbat Shellback Squid Aug 2025 #7
Well played! H2O Man Aug 2025 #21
SERIESLY!! Call your congresscritter RIGHT FUCKING NOW!! madinmaryland Aug 2025 #16
Where is Walt Star? H2O Man Aug 2025 #22
miss his thoughtful posts, so many early DUer's are now gone Shellback Squid Aug 2025 #35
Good question. That was an epic flame out. Skinner: "Ok". madinmaryland Aug 2025 #50
Writing under an assumed name? Hekate Aug 2025 #85
Now don't cast asparagus on our friends the socialists. yardwork Aug 2025 #18
Ha! H2O Man Aug 2025 #23
Or we're all screwn!!!! yardwork Aug 2025 #24
The sky is falling! H2O Man Aug 2025 #25
LOL! MuseRider Aug 2025 #57
I remember the DSA response to the invasion of Ukraine LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #9
DSA also wants to dissolve the family Charmin One Aug 2025 #10
What family? obamanut2012 Aug 2025 #12
All familes eom Charmin One Aug 2025 #13
How? obamanut2012 Aug 2025 #170
Aa DSA rondtable recommended it Charmin One Aug 2025 #14
I'm a prostitute? JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #45
I like the UU's. electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #79
We believe in potluck suppers JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #87
That's a good enough reason! electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #88
In a same sex marriage, which one is supposed to be the prostitute? Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #94
Mind boggling JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #106
Ohhh, brother 🙄 electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #71
It makes me question JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #114
I thought this was hyperbole but it's not. yardwork Aug 2025 #19
Of course they are authoritarian. EllieBC Aug 2025 #27
These people need to step out of the academia bubble. Ace Rothstein Aug 2025 #166
The question of the family is not new OutNow Aug 2025 #26
Good Lord. yardwork Aug 2025 #28
What irritates me about this...well, there is a lot, but the main one... Behind the Aegis Aug 2025 #31
Very good point. yardwork Aug 2025 #33
While I am being "quippy" - I remember all of this. I Do keep an eye out on extremists. electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #75
Imagine being so hateful EllieBC Aug 2025 #32
Wow, that's insane. Family units of one sort or another exist accross all primate species, Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #41
And that is the truth Hekate Aug 2025 #91
Yeah JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #46
Oh, "joy". 🙄 electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #74
Last week at their convention, DSA tabled a motion to censure AOC. lapucelle Aug 2025 #30
Mahalo for that on DSA "Tabling a Resolution to Cha Aug 2025 #40
AOC JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #44
According to the DSA censure resolution, one of AOC's "sins" was endorsing Kamala Harris. lapucelle Aug 2025 #107
Jesus Christ JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #109
Interesting... 80,000? Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #115
WFP JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #118
Good gad mcar Aug 2025 #124
Insanity! SunSeeker Aug 2025 #133
I did not know about this. sheshe2 Aug 2025 #53
Holy shit Hekate Aug 2025 #92
Claims to counterculture notwithstanding, lapucelle Aug 2025 #105
I'm not sure I agree with them on every point, snot Aug 2025 #34
I'm not so sure mountain grammy Aug 2025 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author snot Sep 2025 #173
That sounds an awfully lot like endorsing the idea that some people have the right to own other people. Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #43
I believe he was trying to be realistic. snot Sep 2025 #172
This is NOT comparable to any other historical situation Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #174
Ukraine is vital interest JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #47
Sources for those conclusions would be appreciated snot Sep 2025 #171
They've invaded at least that many just since 1991. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #176
Actually, the definitions used snot Sep 2025 #177
Well... electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #76
It's almost as if they're kooks. BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #37
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #104
They flat out are JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #119
This is why I'm a Democratic Party Member JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #42
Of course they did! Their disloyalty and treachery to our country and to our party must never be forgotten. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #48
For the record mises.org is a right wing Nanjeanne Aug 2025 #49
Mine is the Dekalb GA news JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #72
Like I said Im not debating NATO or DSA. Just pointing out that people need to consider sources and Nanjeanne Aug 2025 #93
Thank you for the response JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #108
Left center bias and medium credibility. Minimal loaded wording. I'll take it. Love watching Al Jazeera America. Lots Nanjeanne Aug 2025 #110
State Owned Propaganda JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #111
Okey dokey. Nanjeanne Aug 2025 #117
Thank you for this very informative post, Nanjeanne Hekate Aug 2025 #90
It looks like another attempt to prevent Mamdani from winning AZProgressive Aug 2025 #51
This OP has nothing to do with Mamdani. And if you read the OP, that was stated explicitedly lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #52
He's a Democratic Socialist running for mayor of NYC AZProgressive Aug 2025 #54
So what. trump, putin, and the DSA are all on the same page that the U.S. should get out of NATO. Mamdani is lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #55
I agree NATO is not part of his job duties AZProgressive Aug 2025 #56
Neither is Israel, but he says he will arrest Netanyahu for war crimes MichMan Aug 2025 #63
I support that AZProgressive Aug 2025 #80
Because NYC has a very large number of Jewish residents MichMan Aug 2025 #84
I'm.shocked JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #78
I thought he was a Democratic Party Member JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #73
Yep. The Purity Police are out and about. thought crime Aug 2025 #65
Being a Democratic Party member JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #77
Yes. Loyalty is important. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #103
DUers can be Democratic Party Members and can also be DSA Members thought crime Aug 2025 #132
That doesn't make sense JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #139
DSA is a PAC, not a party. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #144
How many people JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #146
I have absolutely no idea! LeftInTX Aug 2025 #158
This is what appealed to me when i joined JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #140
Zohran Mamdani is a member of the Democratic Party. He is also a member of DSA. thought crime Aug 2025 #142
I can't JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #147
It's not a PAC or a Party. thought crime Aug 2025 #154
Google AI Mosby Aug 2025 #160
Yeah OK - good point. thought crime Aug 2025 #165
So basically they are UU's JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #167
Indeed. The Purity Police at the DSA are proposing to censure a Democratic Congresswoman lapucelle Aug 2025 #120
The DSA view on Ukraine is about as important as the disagreement between Slavoj Zizek and Yanis Varoufakis thought crime Aug 2025 #135
No it absolutely did not, and that is absolutely not the reason Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #95
I didn't say that was the reason AZProgressive Aug 2025 #96
You are remembering incorrectly because there never was any such agreement. Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #97
This is what I was remembering AZProgressive Aug 2025 #98
Yes, it was in negotiations with the Soviet Union and Soviet officials. Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #99
Interestingly enough, the Ukraine was a founding member of the UN DFW Aug 2025 #148
This is an interesting video on the subject. Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #100
Sadly, I'm not JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #113
No Thanks OC375 Aug 2025 #58
Er.... you don't like the Nordic Countries system, then? electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #81
They have Social Democracy JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #121
Oh, oops! I got the Names of the Type of Gov't Mixed Up! TY, correction. electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #127
I'm a Black America Gen Xer - my apologies JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #149
Ah, Gen X. 👍 electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #150
There needs to be set asides for Black Americans first JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #151
The Roberts Court decided that all the voter supression problems had been "fixed", lapucelle Aug 2025 #155
Ah, got it. I could support that... electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #159
This old white lady agrees with you JAG mcar Aug 2025 #153
Had not considered this group in my recent thinking. cachukis Aug 2025 #59
One can be a democratic socialist without being a DSA Bobstandard Aug 2025 #61
That is absolutely true. lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #62
Exactly +1 Emile Aug 2025 #83
If being wrong about a major policy or issue discredits a political party or group SSJVegeta Aug 2025 #101
Oh please. The Southern Democrats of Jim Crow are now the Republican Party. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #125
So youre saying there's a difference between the individual politicians and their party platforms/ policies and agendas? SSJVegeta Aug 2025 #128
Unlike DSA, the Democratic Party is a big tent. Some Democrats may fail DSA's purity test. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #130
Is that why there are a few dozen or so DSA sponsored politicians (who dont endorse the policy presented in the OP) SSJVegeta Aug 2025 #136
Who are you talking about? SunSeeker Aug 2025 #143
The point I made is that nothing you say about DSA (outside of their specific platform) is representative of reality SSJVegeta Aug 2025 #145
So no matter what anyone says about DSA, it's a lie? Come on. SunSeeker Aug 2025 #168
Who knew the Mayor of NY directed US iemanja Aug 2025 #102
I just saw JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #116
You think it doesn't matter if he agrees with DSA that NATO should be dissolved and its NYC headquarters shuttered? SunSeeker Aug 2025 #123
Goodness, the mumbo jumbo is off the charts. Nixie Aug 2025 #112
A shame they can't evolve into a positive force in 21st century America. betsuni Aug 2025 #126
OPs Source Links are from 2022 thought crime Aug 2025 #138
I don't have to agree with all their positions.. mvd Aug 2025 #141
In my state we no longer register by party. Ping Tung Aug 2025 #157
Back during the Cold War these type of people were called "Tankies" Jose Garcia Aug 2025 #161
LOL. Thanks for that info. I never knew why they were called Tankies! SunSeeker Aug 2025 #169
An even bigger reminder: Avoid Party for Socialism and Liberation! They're a political party, which is trying LeftInTX Aug 2025 #162
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