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5. Europe just drew the line. No land for Putin. No gag orders on Ukraine. Trump can play lapdog, but the EU isn't handing

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Sun Aug 17, 2025, 11:02 AM

Aug 2025

Europe just drew the line.
No land for Putin. No gag orders on Ukraine.
Trump can play lapdog, but the EU isn’t handing Russia a victory.

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Europe draws its red lines in steel, while the White House appears to be sketching its own in disappearing ink. A curious diplomatic strategy: pre-negotiating an ally's surrender before the summit even begins.

After meeting Putin on Aug 15, Trump reportedly backed a plan for Ukraine to cede Donbas—directly defying Europe's stance. As US support wanes and Kyiv is forced to *purchase* arms, Sec. Rubio admitted on Aug 17 that US life "won't be fundamentally altered" if peace fails.

When an admin treats allied sovereignty as a bargaining chip with an adversary, it's not deal-making. It's abdication.

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BREAKING: European Commission Pres. U. von der Leyen puts forward Europe's position before tomorrow's USA-Ukraine-Europ [View all] riversedge Aug 2025 OP

No red carpet for her. Sneederbunk Aug 2025 #1

I kinda like blue better anyway. ananda Aug 2025 #12

Or blue and gold. Amaryllis Aug 2025 #17

Yeah! ananda Aug 2025 #19

That's fine with me. I HATE red! n/t ReRe Aug 2025 #32

The piece of shit will threaten them with higher tariffs if they don't say nice things about Putin dalton99a Aug 2025 #2

I hope they tell him in no uncertain terms MLWR Aug 2025 #11

I have a feeling they're going to tell him exactly what they think, about a lot of things! ShazzieB Aug 2025 #21

They are going snow him with unending praise speak easy Aug 2025 #22

It may be necessary to shake things up, Mr. Mustard 2023 Aug 2025 #24

🔥 Ukrainian partisans torched a railway relay cabinet in occupied Luhansk, Ukraine. riversedge Aug 2025 #3

All these cities are located in Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk regions, the so-called #Donbas. All these cities have bee riversedge Aug 2025 #4

Europe just drew the line. No land for Putin. No gag orders on Ukraine. Trump can play lapdog, but the EU isn't handing riversedge Aug 2025 #5

EU leaders are coming to WH in full force to support Zelensky just in case his meeting with Trump blows up again or he g riversedge Aug 2025 #6

The way it's shaping up: Zelenskyy and EU leaders on one side of the bargaining table, Putin and Trump on the other. sop Aug 2025 #37

And that's what you call leadership. Baitball Blogger Aug 2025 #7

Trump has been put in hos place by a woman dlk Aug 2025 #8

The changing of the guard. Europe is leader bronxiteforever Aug 2025 #9

Honestly, I've never seen Europe this united in my lifetime. paleotn Aug 2025 #10

They know this story...we don't (or don't care).They understand what comes next if they do not stand together and fight. Scalded Nun Aug 2025 #16

Coming to put Liddle Donny in timeout! tanyev Aug 2025 #13

Unlike KRASNOV: Clarity, credibility, forthrightness, the correct side of justice. UTUSN Aug 2025 #14

Hey, Krasnov...Either join us or move those lips to the side. We are going to kick Putin's ass, not kiss it. Scalded Nun Aug 2025 #15

Nice to see Europe with a united front doing the right thing. Martin68 Aug 2025 #18

Hey pedo chief Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #20

I'll be surprised if he meeting even happens. EndlessMaze Aug 2025 #23

She's a hero of mine! wolfie001 Aug 2025 #25

I have said for years now DFW Aug 2025 #36

Tomorrow may be a historic shitshow, and I can't see Trump coming out of it looking good. Doodley Aug 2025 #26

Does Trump know what 'de Jure' means? Captain Zero Aug 2025 #27

French mustard Kaleva Aug 2025 #28

Once Trump finds out it means "by law" or "by right," it will replace "Thank you for your attention to this matter!" sop Aug 2025 #38

The only European position that matters is them putting boots on the ground in Ukraine Renew Deal Aug 2025 #29

This ought to be interesting HighFired49 Aug 2025 #30

Poor Donnie. BidenRocks Aug 2025 #31

I hope to God that Stupid doesn't try ReRe Aug 2025 #33

Are Krasnov and putin planning on splitting the profits kkmarie Aug 2025 #34

Are Krasnov and putin planning on splitting the profits kkmarie Aug 2025 #35

The Twitter responses to this Cosmocat Aug 2025 #39