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Ocelot II

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44. The controversy over the 1973 award wasn't necessarily just because it was given to Kissinger;
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 04:27 PM
Aug 2025

it was because the basis for the award, the Paris Peace Accords, was a sham. The deal was negotiated by Kissinger, who was then the NSA, and Lê Đức Thọ, representing North Vietnam. The government of South Vietnam wasn't represented or even informed, and of course they didn't know what was being discussed or agreed to because the negotiations were held in secret. Nguyễn Văn Thiệu, the president of South Vietnam, refused to agree to the draft agreement when presented with it, but later, after Nixon threatened to abandon South Vietnam if it didn't go along with the deal, Thiệu had little choice but to take it. The agreement mostly got the US out of Vietnam but the North and South kept on fighting and the war continued for another two years until North Vietnam's forces overtook the South, the US having refused to offer any more support by providing equipment and weapons. Saigon fell in 1975 and remaining US personnel were evacuated. The Paris accords were deemed a failure because South Vietnam was "pressurized into accepting an agreement that virtually ensured its collapse."

Does any of this sound kind of familiar?



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He'll just pay them for it. BamaRefugee Aug 2025 #1
Norway is one of the richest countries in the world; they don't need his money, Ocelot II Aug 2025 #2
As of 2022 (most recent I could find) they have $399,744,100 in equity underpants Aug 2025 #37
TACO's Response MissouriDem47 Aug 2025 #9
He's doing a fairly decent job of pre-trashing..."only awarded to liberals". When he's not allegorical oracle Aug 2025 #27
Famous liberal Henry Kissinger mr715 Aug 2025 #33
That was the most controversial award ever, and ultimately it was so embarrassing for the Nobel Committee Ocelot II Aug 2025 #42
Well Kissinger was the devil incarnate mr715 Aug 2025 #43
The controversy over the 1973 award wasn't necessarily just because it was given to Kissinger; Ocelot II Aug 2025 #44
Your point is taken. mr715 Aug 2025 #46
Ha! He was Nixon's Dick Cheney. Ocelot II Aug 2025 #47
He'll get Mexico to pay for it Martin Eden Aug 2025 #23
It isn't so much the transparent desire, it is the refusal to do ANYTHING worthy RockRaven Aug 2025 #3
Here's my take... GP6971 Aug 2025 #4
So Traitor went away mad.... another chance Cha Aug 2025 #17
But but he's the worlds greatest salesman 🙄 underpants Aug 2025 #31
Everything he does is to deceive. And he is a coward. GP6971 Aug 2025 #39
Putin said no ceasefire- only peace talks womanofthehills Aug 2025 #32
Oh I know. I was just speculating what GP6971 Aug 2025 #35
Trump's various crimes against peace and humanity. J_William_Ryan Aug 2025 #5
This 👆 bamagal62 Aug 2025 #11
The committee that awarded the prize to Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Barack Obama is not going to award one to him question everything Aug 2025 #6
Dear God I hope not!!! calimary Aug 2025 #10
And Bill Clinton was nominated for Ireland MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #19
Oh, there is going to be some colossal butt hurt at Fox if he doesn't underpants Aug 2025 #34
Desperado Donnie: SAD! Blue Owl Aug 2025 #7
Constantly trolling and mocking the world, as if this scum deserves anything but a prison cell Blues Heron Aug 2025 #8
he is pathetic Skittles Aug 2025 #12
Damn, that harsh Skittles..... democratsruletheday Aug 2025 #22
Can we petition the committee to come up with a Participation Prize? Warpy Aug 2025 #13
so true! BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2025 #14
If they should EVER award Trump a Nobel Peace Prize that would taint every previous recipents award. usaf-vet Aug 2025 #15
Well Done Article! Love how it's Cha Aug 2025 #16
I agree. He even jokes "I don't know" underpants Aug 2025 #29
Interesting! Yes, Very Good to remember Cha Aug 2025 #41
He's going to throw a fit until someone throws down a ball for him... Hugin Aug 2025 #18
Trump is like the contestants on American Idol who sang out of key MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #20
Trump is a political Florence Foster Jenkins. Ocelot II Aug 2025 #21
It is vulgar low life malaise Aug 2025 #24
From the Nobel website canetoad Aug 2025 #25
Trump checks all the boxes for NOT getting the prize. Ocelot II Aug 2025 #26
But he deserves the Piece Prize....... EndlessMaze Aug 2025 #28
🏆 underpants Aug 2025 #30
Or some sort of compromise like that.. Permanut Aug 2025 #36
when the peace prize is issued... it should come with an additional statement....... Takket Aug 2025 #38
Oh, come on, give the baby back his rattle. rickyhall Aug 2025 #40
I'll take that as a "No"... Wounded Bear Aug 2025 #45
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