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The Madcap

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12. Maybe it's time for the end of superpowers

Sun Aug 24, 2025, 03:24 PM

Aug 2025

After T**** and Putin are finished ruining the US and Russia, China will be the only one left. And they have issues as well.

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It's Time for Americans to Start Talking About "Soft Secession" [View all] Nevilledog Aug 2025 OP

Whatever it takes. (nt) Paladin Aug 2025 #1

K & R. rzemanfl Aug 2025 #2

What's more, the signs have been visible for some time. keep_left Aug 2025 #3

Sounds like a fun 'video game', but I don't want to do it for real.... Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #49

Yeah, no kidding. For what it's worth... keep_left Aug 2025 #53

Their plans better include creating a state militia beyond federal control. Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #4

This is one of the reasons why I'm more in favor of blue states joining with Canada or any number of European Karasu Aug 2025 #9

Do you think Canada would agree to war MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #16

IF it's a Rethug POTUS in charge & multiple Blue States tried to join with Canada, they would threaten Canada with nukes Celerity Aug 2025 #22

Yes, in the end MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #29

Regardless, the question of secession was resolved in 1865. Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #32

Resolved in terms that it VERY likely would be met with kinetic violence by the US Armed Forces. Celerity Aug 2025 #41

With one civil war in your country's past do you Gordcanuck Aug 2025 #83

Fugetaboutit Disaffected Aug 2025 #17

Canada is a Commonwealth member canetoad Aug 2025 #27

People say a lot of foolish things, don't they? Sometimes in the heat of the moment & others in wishful thinking.... Hekate Aug 2025 #40

Well, it should be!!! Just Joking!! GP6971 Aug 2025 #46

Hey GP canetoad Aug 2025 #47

We're doing well. We had a good harvest this year. GP6971 Aug 2025 #50

Wow! You two sound brakester Aug 2025 #75

The question of secession was resolved in 1865 Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #31

western WA and OR can go candian and dump the red state parasite eastsiders nt msongs Aug 2025 #44

Excellent and hopeful. Thank you. Joinfortmill Aug 2025 #5

Maybe I won't have to move to Canada after all. Borogove Aug 2025 #6

And after all, things are quite mimsy where you are. Mister Ed Aug 2025 #93

Successful revolutions require dual power pecosbob Aug 2025 #7

While I get the point... lonely bird Aug 2025 #8

Yup, more like time to talk about Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #19

Other countries around the world are also seceding from our economic and strategic spheres. Midnight Writer Aug 2025 #10

Is it wrong that I'm smiling? calimary Aug 2025 #11

Maybe it's time for the end of superpowers The Madcap Aug 2025 #12

China certainly has "issues" but they are very, very long-range planners. In the South Pacific... Hekate Aug 2025 #64

Talking about it? I've been doing it since 2016! Prairie Gates Aug 2025 #13

I've been paying into social security since 1973 and plan on collecting next year. kimbutgar Aug 2025 #14

I just started collecting SS MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #20

Been thinking about this Blaukraut Aug 2025 #21

Federal taxes are paid through Tree Lady Aug 2025 #61

I'm a payroll admin Freddie Aug 2025 #76

They can close a business down if they want TexasBushwhacker Aug 2025 #79

Yup, they don't get mad, they get even Freddie Aug 2025 #82

In this scenario... SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2025 #87

Social Security is a huge concern. summer_in_TX Aug 2025 #23

What happens to red states without our money MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #69

I'm one of hundreds of thousands of blue voters in red states. summer_in_TX Aug 2025 #85

As we are all being harmed by the votes of Trumpers. MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #86

I agree. The talk of blue states seceding I hope is just that. summer_in_TX Aug 2025 #89

I now believe that Trump will attack SS and Medicare... mike_c Aug 2025 #37

Remember that MAGA followers depend on SS & Medicare, too. thought crime Aug 2025 #42

I have pointed out to MAGA friends . . . AverageOldGuy Aug 2025 #67

I figure we have until the midterms at least MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #71

Some good news for a change... Fil1957 Aug 2025 #15

Better hurry orangecrush Aug 2025 #18

ive been having this idear in my head that ca , origon and washington . nevada and parts of id AllaN01Bear Aug 2025 #24

would love to see mex take back tx , parts of gila bend , etc. AllaN01Bear Aug 2025 #25

What did Mexico ever do to deserve getting saddled with Texas? Hekate Aug 2025 #36

California was once part of Mexico. BadgerMom Aug 2025 #55

Exactly. We have a long relationship with Mexico and its people. We have Californians w Spanish names... Hekate Aug 2025 #57

I grew up here. I went to school with kids from Mexico. BadgerMom Aug 2025 #58

For many it is simply blind ignorance. Canadians speak English, right? Ha. They also speak French... Hekate Aug 2025 #59

Absolutely! BadgerMom Aug 2025 #60

The British Commonwealth bucolic_frolic Aug 2025 #26

MAGA might go for it thought crime Aug 2025 #39

If Florida can declare gold and silver legal tender, Michigan can declare the Canadian dollar legal tender. roamer65 Aug 2025 #28

No Michigan can't DetroitLegalBeagle Aug 2025 #43

Good point! brakester Aug 2025 #80

Let's do it anyway. roamer65 Aug 2025 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author AllaN01Bear Aug 2025 #30

Of course, it could not look exactly like 1861 customerserviceguy Aug 2025 #33

take 2. didnt like the way the earlier post flowed. AllaN01Bear Aug 2025 #34

I hope to God this is true & that it works... Hekate Aug 2025 #35

Bookmarking for the article and all the links from DUers. Thanks, all. Hekate Aug 2025 #38

This has been brakester Aug 2025 #81

We've got to do something. hadEnuf Aug 2025 #45

Wouldn't be difficult at all to relabel the "United" States to: The "Untied" States! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Aug 2025 #48

That was actually the title of a book written in 2005... keep_left Aug 2025 #54

Wow. Book looks interesting! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Aug 2025 #56

Necessity is the Mother of Invention MrWowWow Aug 2025 #51

Good, good, good. tanyev Aug 2025 #52

The states will have to be real states again paulkienitz Aug 2025 #62

Wow Again.. This is uber Encouraging... Cha Aug 2025 #63

A-fucking-men! raccoon Aug 2025 #65

If you want to talk about a soft secession.... mwooldri Aug 2025 #66

Yes, yes yes. We must endeavor to make the orange one as an irrelevant as possible. Magoo48 Aug 2025 #68

Do you know anything about this author? I mean this is all very encouraging if true, but Native Aug 2025 #70

I found this: progressoid Aug 2025 #72

He's an author with law enforcement background. Nevilledog Aug 2025 #78

Soft secession gfarber Aug 2025 #73

Im ready to pass that dlilafae Aug 2025 #74

Shhh! Wicked Blue Aug 2025 #77

Hard secession would be more effective. carpetbagger Aug 2025 #84

They'll make fired bear chops MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #88

On the other hand.... carpetbagger Aug 2025 #90

They know its not a drain MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #91