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allegorical oracle

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Sat Sep 6, 2025, 03:23 PM Sep 2025

TPM: Intriguing theory about Mike Johnson's "informant" remark [View all]

Talking Points Memo - By Josh Marshall
|September 6, 2025

Yesterday Speaker Mike Johnson was on the Hill talking to reporters running Trump defense on the Epstein files. It sounds like pretty standard stuff — and then he says this: “When he first heard the rumor he kicked [Epstein] out of Mar-a-Lago. He was an FBI informant who tried to take this stuff down.”

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Well, this reminded me of something I saw in one of those recent interviews with journalist Michael Wolff, who has been out in the media letting everyone know that he has some large quantity of taped interviews with Epstein from during Trump’s first presidency but before his rearrest and eventual suicide.

Wolff said that Epstein suspected that Trump was the guy who ratted him out to the authorities. So maybe some version of Johnson’s claim isn’t that far-fetched. But of course this isn’t actually exonerating at all. In fact, it implicates Trump about as badly as anything we’ve heard to date.

Epstein was trying to buy a South Florida estate. He brought Trump along to see it one time. A short time later Epstein found out that Trump had gone behind his back and placed a higher and ultimately successful bid on the property. He’d snatched it out from under him with a much higher bid. The problem was that Trump’s entire empire in 2004 was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. It made no sense that Trump was coming up with $41 million to buy this property. Epstein suspected that Trump was acting as a front for a Russian oligarch as a money-laundering scheme. And in fact Trump did purchase and flip the estate two years later to a Russian oligarch named Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million, or a profit of over $50 million dollars.

To sum up: Epstein may have planned to turn djt in for money laundering... djt turned Epstein in on pedo charges first.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/is-this-the-hidden-part-of-the-trump-epstein-drama

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Turning somebody in is far away from being an undercover informer. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #1
I'll say it again dflprincess Sep 2025 #3
Next qu: How did Moses "know" tRump was an "informer". Does Moses have insider info? If not, shut him up. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #2
That's exactly the same question I have. How does Johnson supposedly know this? JoseBalow Sep 2025 #12
The same Johnson who has to team w an app w his son to keep from watching porn. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #16
Somehow Johnson learned that djt turned on Epstein -- not about "stealing' spa allegorical oracle Sep 2025 #14
Johnson wouldn't say that without drumpf's blessing and permission JoseBalow Sep 2025 #17
"You can't tell what you don't know." Ocelot II Sep 2025 #4
Can't have both, right? EarthAbides Sep 2025 #5
No. niyad Sep 2025 #11
Plausible that djt didn't expect Johnson to ever blurt out the informant bit. allegorical oracle Sep 2025 #15
Really Timewas Sep 2025 #6
Ok, if that is true, produce the FBI FD-209 form Jarqui Sep 2025 #7
Interesting stuff proud patriot Sep 2025 #8
I wish Epstein had made a deal with the FBI to Ilsa Sep 2025 #9
Epstein made a sweetheart deal with Florida Johonny Sep 2025 #18
Yeah, that DA that now works for Krasnov. nt Ilsa Sep 2025 #20
So how do you connect those dots with Maxwell? Raven123 Sep 2025 #10
There's a difference between being a "rat" and being a "snitch" JoseBalow Sep 2025 #13
If this was the whole story, obviously Johonny Sep 2025 #19
Exactly. Trump was an opportunistic snitch, not an informant. SunSeeker Sep 2025 #21
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