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NickB79

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48. After the first tariffs in 2016, China basically decoupled from the US Midwest

Sun Sep 7, 2025, 09:17 PM

Sep 2025

They invested heavily in trade deals with Brazil and Argentina for their grain imports. They have the added benefit of cropping 2 or even 3 harvests a year with their tropical climate.

China even went so far as to construct megaports there specifically to handle all the corn and soy exports.

https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/china-is-building-megaports-in-south-america-to-feed-its-need-for-crops-8831748e?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAhj3YbvUEIlDPdLybpx3E5lbB7vp1zHyt8cqb9IfuvA5Vtr4zvslKx5z973Gdo%3D&gaa_ts=68be3169&gaa_sig=KpDHcqvcWr7KG0UtwJFmBfPxx8-YLnWRvbjwntTjeQZHUPbL03GGVYG-KFNOB1ap-yO9uJK_jMgrPGxEGz0zzw%3D%3D

Trump has likely killed grain deals that took decades to establish. US farmers will be hurting for years to come now.

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I agree with your husband....... Butterflylady Sep 2025 #3

So do I. calimary Sep 2025 #17

American farmers have not sold one; not one soybean to China this year. LakeVermilion Sep 2025 #4

We went to Indiana in August TNNurse Sep 2025 #6

Same here in southeast South Dakota... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2025 #12

Market, hell - YodaMom2 Sep 2025 #18

No need Cirsium Sep 2025 #25

I didn't realize soy bean harvest was 100% mechanized now. YodaMom2 Sep 2025 #31

But if you cannot sell those soybeans TNNurse Sep 2025 #36

If soy harvesters are like most wheat harvesters, it is done by traveling troups, not the land owners Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #41

Multiple impacts FHRRK Sep 2025 #53

other crops may require additional 'workers' for harvest stopdiggin Sep 2025 #26

Yes Cirsium Sep 2025 #38

U.S. Soy and Soy Product Usage, USDA littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #13

Farms are a major exploiter of undocumented workers, Heidi Sep 2025 #16

Row crops Cirsium Sep 2025 #29

Did I say "row-crop farmers"? Heidi Sep 2025 #32

Context Cirsium Sep 2025 #37

After the first tariffs in 2016, China basically decoupled from the US Midwest NickB79 Sep 2025 #48

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It will be as absurd as "Why didn't the Dems stop this?" nuxvomica Sep 2025 #10

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...the mind fuck is in place" Joe Bageant.. thomski64 Sep 2025 #20

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Much of suffering DownriverDem Sep 2025 #22

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Cult (nt) Heidi Sep 2025 #33

like the people who were dying of Covid DBoon Sep 2025 #30

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