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In reply to the discussion: Interesting speculation: Loomer labelled Kirk a traitor over his criticism of Trump on Epstein [View all]Celerity
(54,877 posts)45. Those tweets are a bit misleading. Here the the timeline. The Kirk/Megyn Kelly video is from Friday, July 11th, 2025, at
the Turning Point USA Student Action Summit in Tampa FL.
https://www.sas2025.com/
https://backend.tpusa.com/sasagenda/

On Monday, July 14th, 2025, after talking to Trump, he (on his show) backed off and said he was done talking about Epstein.
https://www.sas2025.com/
https://backend.tpusa.com/sasagenda/

Loomer started having a go at Kirk after the July 11th event, in the OP tweets those messages are from Saturday, July 12th and Sunday, July 13th 2025.
On Monday, July 14th, 2025, after talking to Trump, he (on his show) backed off and said he was done talking about Epstein.
Charlie Kirk Announces Hes Done Talking About Epstein After Trump Called Him
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/charlie-kirk-announces-hes-done-talking-about-epstein-after-trump-called-him/

Pro-Trump student organizer and MAGA influencer, Charlie Kirk, told his podcast audience on Monday that he was done talking about the so-called Epstein Files a day after President Donald Trump called him. Kirks organization, Turning Point USA, hosted its Student Action Summit in Florida over the weekend, which saw several speakers hammer the administration over its conclusion that the various conspiracy theories surrounding convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein are all false CNNs Kristen Holmes reported on Sunday night, President Trump called Charlie Kirk Saturday to express his support for Bondi after being shown a clip of Kirk seemingly supporting Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino over Bondi at Kirks Turning Point USA conference in FL.
Attorney General Pam Bondi has been on the receiving end of an avalanche of vitriol over her apparently contradictory statements on the Epstein case, which she has worked in recent days to clarify. Late last week, several reports revealed that Bongino is threatening to quit his role at the FBI unless Bondi is removed as attorney general, adding fuel to the fire engulfing the MAGA base.
The rhetoric at Turning Points summit got so heated, at one point, comedian Dave Smith received loud applause while accusing Trump of actively covering up a giant child rapist ring referring to Epstein. Kirk told his audience, Plenty was said this last weekend at our event about Epstein. Honestly, Im done talking about Epstein for the time being. Im gonna trust my friends in the administration, Im gonna trust my friends in the government to do what needs to be done, solve it, balls in their hands.
After briefly addressing some of the other news of the day, he added, But let me just say this again everyone knows my opinion about the Epstein thing, the messaging fumble. I would love to see the DOJ move to unseal the grand jury testimony. I think that would be a big win. I would love to see that. And Im gonna trust my friends Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, my friend Pam Bondi. All these guys, Todd Blanche, Im gonna trust them to solve it. Balls in their court. I think that there was plenty of, lets say, speeches that were directed towards this topic this last weekend. So we dont need to spend our valuable time on this program relitigating it, Kirk concluded.
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also see: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMGcTOyRWOk/
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/charlie-kirk-announces-hes-done-talking-about-epstein-after-trump-called-him/

Pro-Trump student organizer and MAGA influencer, Charlie Kirk, told his podcast audience on Monday that he was done talking about the so-called Epstein Files a day after President Donald Trump called him. Kirks organization, Turning Point USA, hosted its Student Action Summit in Florida over the weekend, which saw several speakers hammer the administration over its conclusion that the various conspiracy theories surrounding convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein are all false CNNs Kristen Holmes reported on Sunday night, President Trump called Charlie Kirk Saturday to express his support for Bondi after being shown a clip of Kirk seemingly supporting Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino over Bondi at Kirks Turning Point USA conference in FL.
Attorney General Pam Bondi has been on the receiving end of an avalanche of vitriol over her apparently contradictory statements on the Epstein case, which she has worked in recent days to clarify. Late last week, several reports revealed that Bongino is threatening to quit his role at the FBI unless Bondi is removed as attorney general, adding fuel to the fire engulfing the MAGA base.
The rhetoric at Turning Points summit got so heated, at one point, comedian Dave Smith received loud applause while accusing Trump of actively covering up a giant child rapist ring referring to Epstein. Kirk told his audience, Plenty was said this last weekend at our event about Epstein. Honestly, Im done talking about Epstein for the time being. Im gonna trust my friends in the administration, Im gonna trust my friends in the government to do what needs to be done, solve it, balls in their hands.
After briefly addressing some of the other news of the day, he added, But let me just say this again everyone knows my opinion about the Epstein thing, the messaging fumble. I would love to see the DOJ move to unseal the grand jury testimony. I think that would be a big win. I would love to see that. And Im gonna trust my friends Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, my friend Pam Bondi. All these guys, Todd Blanche, Im gonna trust them to solve it. Balls in their court. I think that there was plenty of, lets say, speeches that were directed towards this topic this last weekend. So we dont need to spend our valuable time on this program relitigating it, Kirk concluded.
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also see: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMGcTOyRWOk/
I have seen the Kirk/Kelly July 11th 2025 video being posted all over social media with multiple claims that the video was from just days before Kirk was killed.
That is false, and as far as I am aware, after the Trump call, Kirk backed off the entire Epstein thing and has not pushed it since.
That is false, and as far as I am aware, after the Trump call, Kirk backed off the entire Epstein thing and has not pushed it since.
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Interesting speculation: Loomer labelled Kirk a traitor over his criticism of Trump on Epstein [View all]
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