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AZJonnie

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30. This dude was not a low level internet toad, he was popular enough for 3,000 people to show up to hear him
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:03 AM
Sep 2025

And he tours all over the world (recruiting fascists). He's made a lot of money, and there's vigils going on all over the country and world even. A lot of people liked him and liked him a lot. He's a reasonably major player, and TPUSA is major group. Bigger/more influential than Joe Rogan, but not at the level of Limbaugh in his heyday, at least in name recognition.

Anyways what I really meant to mention is that if it was based on some rival white nationalist, it could have been not to start a race war, but rather to just try to take his open spot atop the dunghill. But I really don't think that's it.

99% of the time, the perp is some kind of disgruntled loner type, and it's not some wild conspiracy.

At this point probably safe to assume the person is white, cis, young, and likely not an immigrant. These are all 'good' in the sense that his is the least marginalized group in this country. Further from what I heard that shirt he was wearing is not any sort of liberal identity shirt, in fact it may be associated with a disabled veterans group. It may have nothing to do with 'who he is', it's just a shirt but this is also preferable to see vs, say a Code Pink shirt.

In terms of calming down this country, optimally it turns out that the shooter is someone who had a personal reason to be angry about things Kirk has said. Maybe they are themselves a survivor of gun violence, or lost a loved one to gun violence and felt Kirk personally was responsible. Maybe they are ex-military, a sniper perhaps, with known untreated PTSD. But I think time is running out on it being a military person because military keeps good records, and given a shot like this, the military would be the first place they'd be sending the photos and doing facial recognition.

The last thing I want is for this to be "one of us", who has made some kind of written statement that he hates Trump, Kirk, and has espoused violence towards people on the right. That would be very bad. He sure as shit didn't act in my name, I can tell you that. This is NOT the sort of person I want to be associated with. I'm liberal, but I am not "far left".

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Could be, wouldn't put it past them. Blues Heron Sep 2025 #1
You are not alone with your theory DingleBerryNW Sep 2025 #2
Too many convenient coincidences. yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #3
He's also the only person in the US who is immune from prosecution tinrobot Sep 2025 #4
Could it be it was ordered by the same guy who put the hit on Epstein? Fozzledick Sep 2025 #5
Very Machiavellian bucolic_frolic Sep 2025 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chasstev365 Sep 2025 #7
Is everybody just trying to make shit up? NoRethugFriends Sep 2025 #8
Completely Kooky Nonsense without a shred of logic or evidence. Fiendish Thingy Sep 2025 #9
I don't visit those sites, Abolishinist Sep 2025 #13
Ever heard of QAnon? Fiendish Thingy Sep 2025 #20
Well yeah, I know about QAnon. Abolishinist Sep 2025 #21
I'm sure DU is mocked regularly on the RW sites Fiendish Thingy Sep 2025 #23
If he was trying to distract from Epstein, why target a Republican? Doesn't make any sense at all. pcdb Sep 2025 #22
DICKtator tr💩mp Approved THIS tr💩mpstein Distraction MrWowWow Sep 2025 #29
Open airport a few miles away takes off...n/t SheilaAnn Sep 2025 #10
Why wouldn't it? Major Nikon Sep 2025 #24
Criminals repeat. usonian Sep 2025 #11
Could be many different types of internecine RWer stuff. RockRaven Sep 2025 #12
More like a hypothesis. nt BootinUp Sep 2025 #14
If it is 'inside', I think it's for much more serious and nefarious goals than taking Epstein off the front page AZJonnie Sep 2025 #15
Agree. Is it a coincidence that Stephen Miller called Democrats a terrorist organisation, meadowlander Sep 2025 #27
This dude was not a low level internet toad, he was popular enough for 3,000 people to show up to hear him AZJonnie Sep 2025 #30
People on this site need to get over their naive belief that there are any limits at all to what Trump and his cronies Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #33
I agree. It was for other, worse reasons. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #32
There are numerous people H2O Man Sep 2025 #16
No orangecrush Sep 2025 #17
I don't believe this shooter will ever be found. CanonRay Sep 2025 #18
After all, he transferred a sexual assaulter to a minimum security prison-- viva la Sep 2025 #19
Good as any other theory. Nobody knows anything. GoodRaisin Sep 2025 #25
I personally doubt that it was some markodochartaigh Sep 2025 #26
De rec. This is dodgy, fringe CT. Celerity Sep 2025 #28
I'm not sure it was over Epstein, but I'm suspecting it was an inside job. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #31
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