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4. September 9 2025...New York Times piece on Fuentes.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:21 PM
Sep 2025

Nick Fuentes: A White Nationalist Problem for the Right
For years, conservatives hoped that the notorious white nationalist would go away. Instead, Mr. Fuentes has gained more traction, even while opposing the president.

Excerpt:
“Until a month or two ago, Nicholas J. Fuentes was regarded by right-wing influencers as a mosquito-like interloper whose lifeblood was attention. Ignore his openly racist and sexist rants, their thinking went, and Mr. Fuentes would eventually flitter off into oblivion.

But today an entirely different consensus has emerged on the right. The footprint of the oratorically proficient late-night streaming show host has not dwindled in the least, with his tens if not hundreds of thousands of alienated young male conservatives followers known as Groypers, a nickname derived from an alt-right meme. If anything, his anti-Israel, anti-immigrant, anti-transgender and anti-civil-rights views seem to have gained new currency during the second Trump administration.

There is now growing alarm among leading conservatives about Mr. Fuentes, who routinely tests the cultlike devotion of his young male fans by savaging their patriarchal figure, President Trump, for not being right-wing enough. In the process, he has emerged as one of the loudest voices on the right to turn on the president.

“When I was a teenager, I thought he was a Caesar-like figure who was going to save Western civilization,” Mr. Fuentes, 27, said in an interview. “Now I view him as incompetent, corrupt and compromised.”

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Pretty amazing timing, no?

How would the anti-Fascist "engravings" on the cartridges tie in? maxsolomon Sep 2025 #1
Are they anti-fascist? yardwork Sep 2025 #3
That's why the media and law enforcement need to catch up fast. OneGrassRoot Sep 2025 #8
If they even want to catch up Wicked Blue Sep 2025 #10
No, they call anything they don't like "Nazi" underpants Sep 2025 #16
'Bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao' (another message on a Robinson shell casing) is definitely anti-fascist Celerity Sep 2025 #20
It can't definitely be assumed anything. yardwork Sep 2025 #32
Trumpco will be the last to know. vanlassie Sep 2025 #38
Originally, yes darkstar Sep 2025 #50
Yeah, I was just about to write this/ róisín_dubh Sep 2025 #54
Childish pretty much describes the shooter Random Boomer Sep 2025 #82
Immature, impulsive - and trained to shoot. yardwork Sep 2025 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author liberalmuse Sep 2025 #5
Yep ⬆️ - law enforcement is either too old to understand the engravings or are straight out lying about their meaning still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author liberalmuse Sep 2025 #65
The Alt Right talks about being anti fascist all the time Johnny2X2X Sep 2025 #6
Exactly!!! I really don't know what to think, but calling someone/thing "fascist" doesn't mean anything. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #12
exactly-- the right totally beieved Obama was a fascist when he was POTUS LymphocyteLover Sep 2025 #13
Yeah, and that is thanks to Jonah Goldberg johnnyfins Sep 2025 #76
Hey lonely bird Sep 2025 #81
Hah, yes-- forgot about that stupid book and stupid wingnut LymphocyteLover Sep 2025 #93
My understanding is that those marks were the bullets makers marks, mwmisses4289 Sep 2025 #22
Those were on the base radical noodle Sep 2025 #68
I read... littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #43
TRN was a manufacture stamp IbogaProject Sep 2025 #59
I thought those turned out to be manufacturer markings? niyad Sep 2025 #86
So, not trans, not a lefty mcar Sep 2025 #2
Yes, and they must pray for him. StarryNite Sep 2025 #34
Yes! mcar Sep 2025 #41
Frankly, I couldn't have imagined B.See Sep 2025 #72
This is an easy "STOP IT, BOTH OF YOU!!" RandomNumbers Sep 2025 #78
September 9 2025...New York Times piece on Fuentes. Drum Sep 2025 #4
Rings a bell. usonian Sep 2025 #17
I know of Fuentes from HS Freethinker65 Sep 2025 #71
His support for Israel and humiliation of Fuentes Mosby Sep 2025 #7
Excellent work here DU'ers. underpants Sep 2025 #9
The DU brain trust is legendary. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #44
So he wasn't a liberal anti fascist? kimbutgar Sep 2025 #11
They said he'd become political and had been radicalized recently herding cats Sep 2025 #14
So Charlie Kirk just wasn't right enough. Botany Sep 2025 #15
So it seems, eh? MineralMan Sep 2025 #18
I guess Kirk had a falling out with Groyper founder Fuentes and his anti semitism didn't jive with Kirk's ... Botany Sep 2025 #24
Yep malaise Sep 2025 #19
Not very nice folks, are they? MineralMan Sep 2025 #21
Jumping in here but I think they knew internally underpants Sep 2025 #33
Nick Fuentes basically admitted on Twitter last night that Charlie Kirk's shooter was a Groyper. SunSeeker Sep 2025 #23
Are you saying this "Asupa Groyper" account is Fuentes himself? Bluetus Sep 2025 #58
Fuentes made those statements on his podcast last night. Here's video of him saying it. SunSeeker Sep 2025 #60
Sounds like he's figured out there's more grifting in religion intrepidity Sep 2025 #92
Wow.. Thanks for all of that.. I looked up how they Cha Sep 2025 #73
Yes, now we can begin to connect the dots.... FarPoint Sep 2025 #25
Open Mouth, Insert Foot, Bite Hard FrankTC Sep 2025 #26
When you fester a culture of violence and hatred like MAGA has... Initech Sep 2025 #28
If the shooter was linked to Fuentes, you can bet he'll be brought in for questioning. Initech Sep 2025 #27
The MAGAts are eating themselves. Sneederbunk Sep 2025 #29
They're eating their own dogs. They're eating their own cats. littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #45
Biggie vs. Tupac Deep State Witch Sep 2025 #63
Thank you MineralMan! I hope this gets spread far and wide FakeNoose Sep 2025 #30
I just tried to put it together concisely and with links. MineralMan Sep 2025 #37
I actually was predicting this yesterday on FB that another wing nut shot him over doctrinal differences. diane in sf Sep 2025 #31
Hot-headed youths, I guess. MineralMan Sep 2025 #39
In a state with a death-penalty sentence for 1st-degree murder... Justice matters. Sep 2025 #49
That waste is not mandatory.. He should have been raised better, I think. MineralMan Sep 2025 #51
Agreed. Justice matters. Sep 2025 #52
What can we do about it? Dr. T Sep 2025 #84
Basically, he was raised in a cult. jeffreyi Sep 2025 #85
When Charlie Kirk isn't rw enough for you... rubbersole Sep 2025 #35
Shapiro should mediate. Sneederbunk Sep 2025 #36
Internal MAGA civil war... MiHale Sep 2025 #40
More like gang warfare Jilly_in_VA Sep 2025 #62
Maybe they can finish each other off. Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #42
Hope springs eternal. littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #47
Was Charlie Kirk aware of the danger from the Fuentes/Groypers? ananda Sep 2025 #48
I have no idea. I don't know any people like that. MineralMan Sep 2025 #53
Well, think of it this way. ananda Sep 2025 #55
Trump damn near got taken out by a sniper -- what's Kirk's security going to do? W_HAMILTON Sep 2025 #66
That staged stunt? niyad Sep 2025 #87
I don't trust anything from Musk's AI tool Grok, but I thought this was interesting. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #56
All those words on ammo casing??? Even my handwriting is not that small!!! niyad Sep 2025 #88
Yeah, it seems to me the text would have to be super tiny to fit Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #91
K&R spanone Sep 2025 #57
It's Tupac vs Biggie Deep State Witch Sep 2025 #61
It's a good time to remind people of this Bookreadingliberal53 Sep 2025 #64
Yesterday I read that on a post, too. BigmanPigman Sep 2025 #67
K&R Justice matters. Sep 2025 #69
wow, I never heard of Groypers or this war till now. JUST WOW. Nimble_Idea Sep 2025 #70
Nor me. As many have so often observed... 3catwoman3 Sep 2025 #77
Add this one to the growing list of shootings tied to Discord groups...kind of scary actually. pecosbob Sep 2025 #74
This is speculation. Don Lemon said it without any attribution. He has been known to say things Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner Sep 2025 #79
So now will someone from the Kirk camp extract payback on the Gropyers? Fla Dem Sep 2025 #80
Learning about this as has been said "just now" Prairie_Seagull Sep 2025 #89
so about all those death threats azureblue Sep 2025 #90
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