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RandomNumbers

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16. I wonder where are the consequences
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 09:32 AM
Sep 2025

for those making threats against George Abaraonye? (this was a response to the post who was hidden; post had claimed this is not a right/left thing - "both sides" engage in online bullying - which might have been an okay statement - marginally - with appropriate context - but then went on to raise an example about this guy I am writing about here, in a way that clearly supported Kirk's views. I think this example really shows the warped view of trying to draw equivalency between someone who makes a mean comment about someone they didn't like who had a bad thing happen - vs. organized harassment and threats)

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/sep/13/president-elect-to-face-disciplinary-proceedings-for-charlie-kirk-remarks-oxford-union-says


He's a young guy who reacted impulsively, and deleted those comments quickly when he learned Kirk had died. I have seen many clips of Kirk that support that he was outright racist. Just because Kirk was well spoken in a debate* only means he is well-prepped and crafty - not that he isn't an awful human being.

Meanwhile, people are actually threatening this young black man. There is a world of difference between posting a distasteful reaction to something bad happening to another person, and ACTIVELY HARASSING another human being.

Oxford says they will treat the accusations against George seriously. I hope they seriously weigh the relative harms of his quickly-deleted statements (miniscule) to the harm of allowing people to outright harass and threaten other people just because they don't like what they said.

And don't forget that Kirk's shooter was much more likely a MAGA disappointed in Kirk's attempt to mainstream TP, than any kind of liberal. (although I stick with the main motivation being the shooter was just nutz from a certain subculture, that hates "both sides" without having a fucking clue about anything).

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Big Brother is watching all of us. nt doc03 Sep 2025 #1
What gets me is that Charlie Kirk had/has all the benefits of the First Amendment's no_hypocrisy Sep 2025 #2
What gets me is...WE (THE PEOPLE) ARE FUCKING ALLOWING IT! maxrandb Sep 2025 #10
Elon Musk bought Twitter specifically to "restore" (sic) free speech Arazi Sep 2025 #3
Businesses don't have any obligation... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #9
Absolutely. My point is the hypocrisy Arazi Sep 2025 #21
Post removed Post removed Sep 2025 #4
Kirk was a hateful misogynistic bigot. Nobody should be fired for telling the truth Arazi Sep 2025 #6
That was quick. :) I think he raised an interesting case RandomNumbers Sep 2025 #15
They were absolutely spewing rightwing talking points Arazi Sep 2025 #17
I agree, RandomNumbers Sep 2025 #19
Their larger point was people are saying shit online that they wouldn't IRL Arazi Sep 2025 #20
I wonder where are the consequences RandomNumbers Sep 2025 #16
This is huge. The RW is instilling a systematic chilling effect on valid, protected free speech. Celerity Sep 2025 #5
McCarthy is dancing in his grave Iris Sep 2025 #8
Doxing OC375 Sep 2025 #7
If we were smart, we would set up a similar site of RIGHT-WINGERS who were Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #11
And submit JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #23
This is a straight up memoriam to him Cosmocat Sep 2025 #12
How do we fight this?? 58Sunliner Sep 2025 #13
Society is barely funcitoning right now... ananda Sep 2025 #14
A lot pf people are invested in seeing the obvious called anything other than the obvious Torchlight Sep 2025 #18
There's actually JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #22
Who Is.com JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #24
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