Green Party of the U.S. and the Democratic Socialist Party of the U.S.A.

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70. the numbers tell the story. Nader got so many votes, those would have gone to Gore, and the 4 EV

you can believe Nader's lies(which are proven lies, SCOTUS alone shows it)

any vote that doesn't directly lead to a democratic vote is a vote against the democrats and for the tea/libertarian/republican party.

Bernie Sanders IS A DEMOCRATIC vote, no matter how loud he speaks on an issue, same as Kucinich, both are LOYAL to president Obama and the Dems and always were.

They serve a purpose but they know winning is everything.

working from within

If Ralph Nader actually wanted to serve, he had his chance to be senator and gov, or house, much like Al Franken did.

But i think Ralph did not want to actually work so hard
Far easier to get a group of fans like Ron Paul and make millions writing books, on tv, etc.
But nothing achieved by their bloviating.
There is NO major third party.
Much like Perot, who actually could have won, but he didn't want to actually win, he just was in it for a personal grudge and stopped 41, his only goal. Wihtout Perot, 41 won.

So Perot and Nader were two spoilers. One elected a republican, one a democrat.
(I know elected/selected.)

but on the placemat of the Presidents, those pictured are the winners. Like one, don't like the other.
But if you dind't like the other, it was the spoilers fault

BTW-John Anderson also contributed to Jimmy Carter's loss in 1980.
Who knows what might have happened without Anderson in the race.